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Why would there be sanctions put on Nigeria?

What I said was that Verve card will be used as a safety net in case of any sanctions on Nigeria. I am not the only one that is thinking like this. As you can see from the article due to the US-Russia Ukraine situation, the Nigerian government is also thinking similarly.
Plus Nigeria has not really got along with the western world and Nigeria has had a history of butting heads with the western powers as well. After all Nigerias foreign policy has always been Africa first and foremost. The most recent is the EPA agreement that Nigeria rejected which forced our african neighbors to reject the deal as well. Plus as I said ealrier the Nigerian government is watching the west carefully and we know its is not impossible for them to create reasons to try to disenfranchise Nigeria for thier benefit. I especially love this quote Nigeria's minister of trade left to the europeans after we rejected the proposed EU Deal


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-and-the-eu-west-africa-economic-agreement/176169/

So, when about three weeks ago, Nigeria refused again to endorse the proposed reciprocal, free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), it amazed many Nigerians who noticed that the EU representatives felt disappointed with the west African giant's caution and pessimism.

If Benin City, a small but prosperous kingdom with an established governance system was attacked and ravaged in 1897, simply for the purpose of enjoying unbriddled benefits from its Palm oil, rubber and art wealth, then the EU, which in contemporary times can be considered a reflection of the old British empire should know that it has to make a lot more sacrifices to convince Nigerians and other Africans that in the proposed EU-west Africa Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA), its interests go beyond the pecuniary need to control the economic wealth and prospect of the subregion.

This is not the 19th century, so it may not be possible for the EU to directly concoct phantom reasons to begin a military expedition against Nigeria for its decision not to endorse the EPA as did the British when the Benin Kingdom terminated trade relationship with its trade agents in the 1890s.
Also, If the EU is considering indirect economic sanctions against Nigeria as a way of punishing the country for daring to speak up against an agreement it is uncomfortable with, then the western giants should remember that one way to earn Africa's forgiveness and possibly gain its trust again is to allow the region have its own say without feeling bullied by the giants that may have impoverished it by its influence in past centuries.

Nigeria has also butted heads with the US due to our stance against AFICOM. In west africa we already have ECOMOG, which was set up by Nigeria and her west african neighbours for defence of the region. AFRICOM being fully implemented will destroy ECOMOG and severly weaken Nigerias influence in the region.

http://www.afjn.org/focus-campaigns...ria-adds-its-voice-to-africom-opposition.html
Similarly, over the past week, Nigeria has begun efforts to freeze the progress of the US military in erecting a military base in West Africa. The oil-rich Gulf of Guinea has been a target of US wooing, as many analysts argue that the US Africa Command’s (AFRICOM’s) primary objective will be to protect US oil interests. However, rising opposition from African governments as well as military and economic organizations makes AFRICOM’s presence on the continent increasingly contentious.

"I have my reservations," says Debo Bashorun, a retired Nigerian army major who served as press secretary to military president Ibrahim Babangida in the late 1980s, and is now a vocal critic of the Nigerian military. "[Now] this is a good time [for the Americans] to do what they've always wanted to do," Bashorun says.

He's referring to the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), run by the U.S. Department of Defense, and established by President George W. Bush in 2007. From early on African leaders opposed attempts to site AFRICOM's headquarters in Africa.

On his first official trip to Washington as president in December 2007, on the invitation of President Bush, Nigeria's President Yar'Adua made comments that were interpreted back home to mean that Nigeria was acceding to America's AFRICOM-in-Africa push.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/13/opinion/nigeria-us-military-ogunlesi/
Outrage in Nigeria compelled the president to declare that he "did not agree that AFRICOM should be based in Africa."

"What we discussed with [President] Bush is that if they have something to do for Africa that has to do with peace and security, they should contribute. I told him that we African countries have our own plan to establish a joint military command in every sub-region ..." he said.

Segun Adeniyi, Yar'Adua's spokesperson, says those comments displeased America. "[By] openly repudiating the idea of AFRICOM, Nigeria's relationship with the U.S. on Yar'Adua's watch had started on a very bad note. It was a relationship that would remain at a less-than-inspiring note throughout his tenure," Adeniyi writes in his book, "Power, Politics and Death," an account of the Yar'Adua administration.

Here is so more info about AFRICOM and how it relates to Nigerias influence in the region. As you can see there is truly no friendship between the US and Nigeria.

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/147052/1/boko-haram-covert-operation-of-the-cia-says-wikile.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: TheNigerianVoiceNews (The Nigerian Voice News)

According to wikileaks article on ACRI which potrays the ACRI as a counterweight which was set up by the US to instigate mistrust in Nigerian dominated ECOMOG; the sense of Nigerian led anti-American opposition was first observed during the bush administration, when Nigeria without support from the west or UN led the first ever African intervention force on peacekeeping mission to Liberia while at the same time engaging Sierra Leone in forced peace combat, with predominantly Nigerian troops( over 90%) being spearheaded by then Military ruler Gen. Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida.

The report concluded that should ECOMOG be allowed to go the whole hog, the major beneficiary will be Nigeria and that might form the basis for a pax Nigeriana in the West African sub-region eclipsing the influence of former colonial powers France and Britain. The reports also called on the United States Government to note that Liberia being its creation should not be allowed to fall into Nigerian hands with consequences to US strategic interests in the country and the region.

Specifically both reports noted that should Nigeria be allowed to have a foothold in Liberia, it would further embolden Nigeria to challenge the US and the West in carving its own sphere of interest at their expense. In this regard, the report further recalled Nigeria's role in helping to liberate the southern African countries in the 70's and 80's in clear opposition and defiance to the interests of the United States and its western allies which resulted in a setback for Western initiatives in Africa at the time.

Both concluded with a recommendation that the US Government in conjunction with its allies should seek to contain the growing influence of Nigeria in the sub-region by forming a parallel organization to ECOMOG.

Then we also have the United States who threatened to sanction Nigeria last year over thee boko haram issue. As you can see America sanctioning Nigeria over an issue is not out of the question.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/63066

Following the three-day battle human rights activists, including the George Soros-funded and liberal aligned Human Rights Watch, which is not exactly known for its impartiality when it comes to reporting on Islamic issues, claimed the Nigerian military wantonly slaughtered 183 civilians and burned down over 2,000 homes and businesses.

The Nigerian government denied the claims saying the death toll and destruction had been vastly overstated by its enemies, and in fact 30 Boko Haram terrorists, 6 civilians and one soldier, had died in the fighting. Reports from the Baga clinic, which treated 193 people following the battle, but only 10 with serious injuries, seemed to back up the Nigerian government claim that no large-scale massacre had occurred.


The U.S. Nigerian Ambassador, blindly believing any Islamist sob story that crossed his path, responded in a May 2013 meeting with human rights activists by defending Boko Haram:

Mr. Terrence announced to the activists that the US congress had previously passed a law that bars the United States from rendering military assistance to any government that violates basic rights of citizens. He said the Obama led US government has therefore ceased to assist Nigeria militarily in obedience to the law.


Then we have the Bakassi situation where France threatened to level Nigeria. Nigeria and France have never been fund of one another due to the fact both countries are vying for control off west and parts of central africa.

http://radiobiafra.co/news/bakassi-france-would-have-levelled-nigeria-duke

http://www.kevindjakpor.com/2013/10/france-would-have-destroyed-nigeria.html#.U6h-wvldWSo

Former Cross River Governor, Donald Duke, yesterday disclosed that France threatened to level Nigeria if the country had gone to war with Cameroun over the Bakassi Peninsula.

Speaking at the 60th birthday lecture in honour of Justice Charles Archibong (rtd) held in Lagos, Duke said any attempt to ignore the International Court of Justice, ICJ, judgement would have been disastrous for Nigeria. He said: "France would have wiped us out. Cameroun is still a protectorate of France and has a defence pact with France. And France is duty bound to honour that pact, even though it has a lot of investments in Nigeria.

"If we engaged Cameroun in war, France would have wiped us out. We tried to liaise with the Chinese and the Russians, but America made it point blank that where the British stands that is where they stand. We were ready to table it before the Security Council, but they were not ready to take it.''

The former governor said after the ICJ judgement, Obasanjo tried to remedy the situation by seeking protection from Britain and United States, but they were not ready to assist.


Sidenote: This is why african countries must continue to strengthen their millitaries and learn to work together. The western world will always have each others backs especially concerning what is taking place on the african continent. One has to remember africas current state of poverty is what is supporting Europe (especially France) at the moment. Now to make maters worse the UN has returned to cross river state and they are trying to give more of our land to cameroon. This time the Nigerian govenrment will not allow it because the land is very precious.

To end it all. Interswitch and the Verve card are being pushed to ensure Nigerias economy and her interest are protected if a clash with the west becomes a reality. (As you can see from the articles I posted the probability is pretty high.) African countries have to learn to deal with the west but we must also be cautious. Creating safety nets just in case are of utmost importance in this day and age. Remember Nigerias foreign policy has always been Pro Africa, and establishing Nigeria as a vanguard on the continent regardless of western interests. This stance will ensure Nigeria butts heads with the west as long as Nigeria is a nation.

http://businessdayonline.com/2014/0...y-in-national-id-project-broken/#.U6iFc_ldWSo
BusinessDay had reported that the concerns were further amplified by recent sanctions imposed on Russia by the United States (US) over the former’s position on the Ukrainian turmoil. The implication of MasterCard’s involvement in Nigeria’s identity project is that rules made by the US government institute which regulates or directs American firms (like Visa and MasterCard) would automatically impact Nigeria’s financial system.
 
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Full disclosure: I also have Nigerian citizenship

What I said was that Verve card will be used as a safety net in case of any sanctions on Nigeria. I am not the only one that is thinking like this. As you can see from the article due to the US-Russia Ukraine situation, the Nigerian government is also thinking similarly.
Plus Nigeria has not really got along with the western world and Nigeria has had a history of butting heads with the western powers as well. After all Nigerias foreign policy has always been Africa first and foremost. The most recent is the EPA agreement that Nigeria rejected which forced our african neighbors to reject the deal as well. Plus as I said ealrier the Nigerian government is watching the west carefully and we know its is not impossible for them to create reasons to try to disenfranchise Nigeria for thier benefit. I especially love this quote Nigeria's minister of trade left to the europeans after we rejected the proposed EU Deal


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-and-the-eu-west-africa-economic-agreement/176169/


Didn't Nigeria recently vote along with the US on the Crimea issue?


Nigeria has also butted heads with the US due to our stance against AFICOM. In west africa we already have ECOMOG, which was set up by Nigeria and her west african neighbours for defence of the region. AFRICOM being fully implemented will destroy ECOMOG and severly weaken Nigerias influence in the region.

http://www.afjn.org/focus-campaigns...ria-adds-its-voice-to-africom-opposition.html




http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/13/opinion/nigeria-us-military-ogunlesi/

Most countries in Africa said no to AFRICOM. But they have still managed to build a drone base in Niger.

Here is so more info about AFRICOM and how it relates to Nigerias influence in the region. As you can see there is truly no friendship between the US and Nigeria.

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/147052/1/boko-haram-covert-operation-of-the-cia-says-wikile.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: TheNigerianVoiceNews (The Nigerian Voice News)

You do realize that article is complete B.S right? Nigeria is the US's most important partner in West Africa.


1. For the last few years, the Nigerian military has been actively receiving training from the US government as a part of their ACOTA program, and has played a large role in coordinated efforts to stop conflicts in West Africa, such as the one in Liberia in the early 2000s

2. There are currently no sanctions put in place by the US or any Western state against Nigeria, such as the ones that existed against Iraq, Iran, Sudan, North Korea, Zimbabwe, and other nations deemed adversarial to US/Western interests

3. US government officials have actually called for MORE foreign investment into Nigeria

4. There is no call for any type of “No Fly Zone” for Nigeria

5. Nigeria is not strongly aligned with states that are adversarial to the US (like Syria is with Iran)

6. The sitting president of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan was pressured into running for office by the US in 2011

7. The US government has been actively exchanging information on Boko Haram with the Nigerian government since at least 2009

8. The current Nigerian constitution is modeled after the US one

9. Nigeria currently has a temporary vote on the UN Security council, and its votes are aligned with US interests

10. Western Nations like France and UK have had security forces working with Nigeria since 2011 in order to rescue their citizens kidnapped by Boko Haram and secure their investments in the country. Some of these hostage rescue attempts have ended with spectacular failure (the death of the foreign hostages)


Then we also have the United States who threatened to sanction Nigeria last year over thee boko haram issue. As you can see America sanctioning Nigeria over an issue is not out of the question.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/63066

Withdrawing military aid and training isn't the same as sanctions bro. Look at Zimbabwe for an example of sanctions.
 
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Then we have the Bakassi situation where France threatened to level Nigeria. Nigeria and France have never been fund of one another due to the fact both countries are vying for control off west and parts of central africa.

http://radiobiafra.co/news/bakassi-france-would-have-levelled-nigeria-duke

http://www.kevindjakpor.com/2013/10/france-would-have-destroyed-nigeria.html#.U6h-wvldWSo




Sidenote: This is why african countries must continue to strengthen their millitaries and learn to work together. The western world will always have each others backs especially concerning what is taking place on the african continent. One has to remember africas current state of poverty is what is supporting Europe (especially France) at the moment. Now to make maters worse the UN has returned to cross river state and they are trying to give more of our land to cameroon. This time the Nigerian govenrment will not allow it because the land is very precious.

Bakassi was a land dispute, but you must be tripping if you actually think that Nigeria was actually going to fight Cameroon over it. Especially since it was part of the deal that they made during the Biafran War. And France has alot of investment in Nigeria as well.
 

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5. Nigeria is not strongly aligned with states that are adversarial to the US (like Syria is with Iran)

What do you mean "strongly aligned" because Nigeria deals with Iran and Russia.
 
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Didn't Nigeria recently vote along with the US on the Crimea issue?

Nigeria is presently part of the UN security counsel so it is necessary that they vote on such an issue. Nigeria has no business challenging the west on the situation in Ukraine. There is nothing wrong with the position they took.


Most countries in Africa said no to AFRICOM. But they have still managed to build a drone base in Niger.

The United states has not been able to set up an official full base on any of the west african countries. They have drones and training bases around.
AFRICOMS Full base is based in Stuttgart Germany.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/nigeri...ustify-us-military-build-up-in-africa/5381653

AFRICOM also has a civilian component to provide it with a development, good “governance” and “humanitarian” cover, able to influence the domestic and foreign policies of African states, under conditions where there is widespread opposition to the basing of US military forces. Since no African nation has been willing to host a full US base, AFRICOM is based in Stuttgart, Germany.


You do realize that article is complete B.S right? Nigeria is the US's most important partner in West Africa.

Nigeria has been the United States most important partner but that does not mean that Nigerian views and influence on the region is fully supported. We are talking about a Nigerian state that has clashed with the western world over various issues from apartheid, to Nigerias relenting efforts to assist thier african neighbors with breaking away from colonialism and getting thier Independence e.t.c


http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/80.htm

Nigeria's primary African commitment was to liberate the continent from the last vestiges of colonialism and to eradicate apartheid in South Africa. Promoting liberation had grown from a weak and conservative stance during the 1960s to an increasingly firm push after the civil war. This commitment was pursued most actively after Murtala Muhammad successfully backed the Movimento Popular de Libertação de Angola's ascent to power in Angola in 1975 by providing the swing vote in the OAU decision to recognize the MPLA. Nigeria had played a role in the independence of Zimbabwe and in the late 1980s was active in assisting Nambibia to achieve independence of Namibia. In the latter case, it contributed about US$20 million to assist the South West Africa People's Organization in the 1989 elections and other preparations for Namibian independence. The country also contributed financially to liberation movements in South Africa and to the front line states of Zambia, Tanzania, Mozambique, and Zimbabwe, which were constantly harassed by South Africa.

http://www.academia.edu/345652/Fifty_Years_of_Nigerias_Foreign_Policy_A_Critical_Review
This period saw a true manifestation of the Africa policy of Nigeria as the regime underMurtala Mohammed gave a well-defined, articulate, coherent and explicit policy forAfrica that was not tainted with fear or deference to any bloc or country.In his addressto the OAU in Addis Ababa, he gave notice of the direction that Africa was going to
take in the new era, and with Nigeria’s leadership. Part of his speech read thus:
Africa has come of age, it is no longer in the orbit of anycontinental power. It should no longer tale orders from anycountry however powerful. The fortunes of Africa are in
our hands to make or mar…
This boldness exhibited by the Nigerian leader has been given as perhaps one of the many reasons given for his untimely elimination from the political scene.There is an issue of conspiracy by the West that could not stomach a revolutionary leader, a staunch believer in Africa and a soldier who was ready to do all it took to wrest Africa from the wrenches of the capitalist West that had continued to control the continent’s destiny many years after the declaration of independence. Mohammed did not help matters with his forceful sparring with the United States on the Angolan crisis between UNITA and MPLA, where Nigeria recognized and supported the MPLA government as against the American support for UNITA



Now to address your points

1. For the last few years, the Nigerian military has been actively receiving training from the US government as a part of their ACOTA program, and has played a large role in coordinated efforts to stop conflicts in West Africa, such as the one in Liberia in the early 2000s

Of course, Nigeria, the US and the western world have always worked together and still work together. Just because American forces are training Nigerian troops does not mean America is all buddy with Nigeria. America at the end of the day has always worked to protect her interests and if working with Nigerian troops benefits her interests at that specific time then she will do so. No doubt the american government does not want Nigeria or west Africa to go down in a blaze because the economic effects will be astronomical. Afterall west african raw goods being shipped to europe are a great source of europes present wealth. That does not mean that America does not have her own motives. every nation has their motives and looks puts themselves at the forefront of their foreign policies.

2. There are currently no sanctions put in place by the US or any Western state against Nigeria, such as the ones that existed against Iraq, Iran, Sudan, North Korea, Zimbabwe, and other nations deemed adversarial to US/Western interests

your right Nigeria currently does not have any sanctions, that I know. Though america did threaten Nigeria with sanctions for the handling of the baga incident. That is what I said before linking the article. Though the article said that the ambassador to Nigeria had made comments towards withdrawing aid from Nigeria, as we all know that was never implemented.

(here is the part of the article i did not qoute)
The threat of military sanctions, and whether or not they were actually implemented, is an open question as there has been zero coverage of this issue in the mainstream media, may have had a chilling effect on Nigerian military operations against Boko Haram.

3. US government officials have actually called for MORE foreign investment into Nigeria

The United States does not have any plans to destroy Nigeria. A destroyed Nigeria will introduce chaos across the continent. The AFRICOM/ECOMOG article just talks about how the US is still trying to establish her presence on the continent and how Nigerias growing influence has to be monitored and checked. Again that is the game being played. Nigeria has butted heads with the likes of France and the US over African issues. A stonger Nigeria with a more focused Pan Africanist agenda will be a able to checkmate western influence and promote african interests on the continent. This is something the west (especially France detest)
So the US calling for investment in nigeria does not guarantee thier innocence. All this is about establishing control, not Nigeria's destruction.

4. There is no call for any type of “No Fly Zone” for Nigeria

Never said there was a call for a No fly zone in Nigeria


5. Nigeria is not strongly aligned with states that are adversarial to the US (like Syria is with Iran)

Again I never alluded to this. Nigeria has always had a pro african agenda in regards to her foreign policy. That is all we care about.


6. The sitting president of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan was pressured into running for office by the US in 2011


I dont know about this. regardless it holds little meaning. After all There was really no other alternative apart from Buhari who was a former military ruler.

7. The US government has been actively exchanging information on Boko Haram with the Nigerian government since at least 2009

At the same time Unsecured weapons from Libya found thier hands into boko haarams hands and made the situation worse. Who is responsible for the current state of Libya?

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/05/08/unsecured-libyan-weapons-went-to-boko-haram/

The Bama attack showed their [Boko Haram's] substantial firepower, including machine guns, large numbers of rocket propelled grenades (RPGs) and pick-up trucks mounted with anti-aircraft guns, a sign the weapons flood from the Libyan war that helped rebels seize parts of Mali last year has reached Nigeria, officials say.

plus here is an article which highlights how americas blunders in the middle east is fueling boko haram. So america is basically helping us and stabbing us at the same time.

http://scgnews.com/is-the-us-government-funding-boko-haram-bringbackourgirls

Somebody has been routing large sums of cash and/or weapons to the Nigerian terrorist Boko Haram. Most experts agree that the money itself is difficult to trace, but we do know a few things about their organization. You won't hear U.S. politicians or the corporate media going into detail about the group's leadership structure or alliances because doing so would open up some very uncomfortable questions, questions such as: are some of the weapons and money that the U.S. is sending to the Syrian rebels being routed to the Nigerian terrorist group?

1. The head of the U.S, Africa Command has gone on the record saying that Boko Haram, al-Shabaab and al-Qaeda in north Africa are sharing money, explosives and training.
2. In 2012 Al-Shabab officially merged with al-Qaeda, and is still currently affiliated with the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda which is attempting to topple Assad.
3. The U.S. government has been backing the Syrian rebels for several years now, and in recent months Washington has been increasing its support by sending more advanced weaponry in spite of the fact that the Syrian rebels are not only fighting along side al-Qaeda but are in fact dominated by the organization.

Of course U.S. officials claim that these weapons are being handed to "moderate" rebels, but these so called moderate forces have admitted that they conduct joint operations with Al-Qaeda, and that they don't consider it an enemy.

Even if you believe Washington's official statements on the matter (and I don't), if the groups that the U.S. is funding and arming are conducting joint operations with Al-Qaeda, it would be naive to think that none of that weaponry or money is making its way into the hands of extremists. The idea that the U.S. government can control how their assets are distributed in a war zone dominated by Islamic militants is ludicrous.


8. The current Nigerian constitution is modeled after the US one

Does not matter

9. Nigeria currently has a temporary vote on the UN Security council, and its votes are aligned with US interests

Nigeria takes little interest in matters outside the continent. 9 times out of 10 Nigeria will align herself with the wishes of the majority

10. Western Nations like France and UK have had security forces working with Nigeria since 2011 in order to rescue their citizens kidnapped by Boko Haram and secure their investments in the country. Some of these hostage rescue attempts have ended with spectacular failure (the death of the foreign hostages)

France cant be trusted. Frances has 60,000 troops on the continent and have great control over thier former colonies and as you know the majority are situated in west africa. Nigeria who has always pushed an african empowerment agenda has never been to close with France. Regardless of Nigerian and french/ british forces working together.

http://www.siliconafrica.com/france-colonial-tax/

At this very moment I’m writing this article, 14 african countries are obliged by France, trough a colonial pact, to put 85% of their foreign reserve into France central bank under French minister of Finance control. Until now, 2014, Togo and about 13 other african countries still have to pay colonial debt to France.

The African countries should deposit their national monetary reserves into France Central bank.

France has been holding the national reserves of fourteen african countries since 1961: Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Mali, Niger, Senegal, Togo, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo-Brazzaville, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.

It’s now estimated that France is holding close to 500 billions African countries money in its treasury, and would do anything to fight anyone who want to shed a light on this dark side of the old empire.

Under something called “Defence Agreements” attached to the Colonial Pact, France had the legal right to intervene militarily in the African countries, and also to station troops permanently in bases and military facilities in those
countries, run entirely by the French.

Plus here is an article to ponder...

http://leadership.ng/opinions/354105/france-backs-boko-haram-1

The report entitled “Boko Haram’s anti-aircraft training camp uncovered in Niger” in the Punch of 19th February disclosed that 20 insurgents were arrested at a camp located in Diffa, just across the Nigerian border which specialized in training for the use of long-range anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons. According to the report, “Security personnel believe new arms were being acquired with ransom money.” It recalled that France paid a huge amount of money to secure the release of a French missionary, Father Georges Vandenbeusch abducted by Boko Haram near Nigeria’s border with Cameroun on 13th November 2013.

However, spokesman of the French Embassy in Niger Georges Vanin would not comment on the report that France had been paying ransom to secure release of its citizens. Last year, a French family of tourists was similarly captured at a game reserve inside Cameroun and released after undisclosed ransom was promptly paid. This seems such a foolproof way to funnel funding to terrorists but no art can ever launder blood-money.

To summarize, this is all a battle for influence. A Nigeria with leaders who are completely loyal to western interests on the continent will be a dream come true for the west
 
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Bakassi was a land dispute, but you must be tripping if you actually think that Nigeria was actually going to fight Cameroon over it. Especially since it was part of the deal that they made during the Biafran War. And France has alot of investment in Nigeria as well.

Regardless at the end of the day France threatened to level Nigeria over the bakassi issue. This was stated by the former Governor of Cross river state Donald Duke. He was someone who was on the inside and had access to information that people like us would not have.
 
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@Dreamestorical So Africom has no bases in Africa and the majority of African leaders rejected Africom.

So how did Africom get passed?

No africom does not have a full base on the continent. They have a few monitoring and training centers and the drone base in Niger, but no african country has agreed to allow them to set up a full base. South Africa rejected their move to establish in their region and so did ethopia and nigeria


Edit: made a mistake. ethopia didn't reject it. I think they support it. I will need any Ethiopians on the coil to verify
 

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Putting your reply within my quote makes it a bit more tedious to reply, but here we go:


Nigeria is presently part of the UN security counsel so it is necessary that they vote on such an issue. Nigeria has no business challenging the west on the situation in Ukraine. There is nothing wrong with the position they took.


But if they were as adverse to the Western agenda as you and others are claiming, wouldn't their voting record be more aligned with China and Russia? If you recall, they also were one of the first countries to vote yes for the strike against Libya


Nigeria has been the United States most important partner but that does not mean that Nigerian views and influence on the region is fully supported. We are talking about a Nigerian state that has clashed with the western world over various issues from apartheid, to Nigerias relenting efforts to assist thier african neighbors with breaking away from colonialism and getting thier Independence e.t.c


We aren't talking about the military governments, we are talking about the civilian ones. Which big disagreements have they had since 1999?


Of course, Nigeria, the US and the western world have always worked together and still work together. Just because American forces are training Nigerian troops does not mean America is all buddy with Nigeria. America at the end of the day has always worked to protect her interests and if working with Nigerian troops benefits her interests at that specific time then she will do so. No doubt the american government does not want Nigeria or west Africa to go down in a blaze because the economic effects will be astronomical. Afterall west african raw goods being shipped to europe are a great source of europes present wealth. That does not mean that America does not have her own motives. every nation has their motives and looks puts themselves at the forefront of their foreign policies.


I never stated that there were all "buddy buddy", but their relationship is far from being as adversarial as you've been claiming it is. There's no doubt that Nigeria is the strongest power in West Africa and the most important partner that the US has in that region. So why would undermine it if they are active partners?


your right Nigeria currently does not have any sanctions, that I know. Though america did threaten Nigeria with sanctions for the handling of the baga incident. That is what I said before linking the article. Though the article said that the ambassador to Nigeria had made comments towards withdrawing aid from Nigeria, as we all know that was never implemented.


Suspension of military aid is a far cry from sanctions bro. We both know this. Where has there been a threat of economic sanctions from US or UK?


The United States does not have any plans to destroy Nigeria. A destroyed Nigeria will introduce chaos across the continent. The AFRICOM/ECOMOG article just talks about how the US is still trying to establish her presence on the continent and how Nigerias growing influence has to be monitored and checked. Again that is the game being played. Nigeria has butted heads with the likes of France and the US over African issues. A stonger Nigeria with a more focused Pan Africanist agenda will be a able to checkmate western influence and promote african interests on the continent. This is something the west (especially France detest)

So the US calling for investment in nigeria does not guarantee thier innocence. All this is about establishing control, not Nigeria's destruction.


But didn't the articles that you quoted from explicitly state that the US is funding Boko Haram in order to destabilize Nigeria? And besides AFRICOM, what are the major issues that Nigeria has butted heads with the US over? In regards to investments, isn't that an effective form of influence? Its not possible to have total control over a country like Nigeria...especially not using military forces



I dont know about this. regardless it holds little meaning. After all There was really no other alternative apart from Buhari who was a former military ruler.


"A US ambassador cable released by Wikileaks details how American officials guided Goodluck Jonathan to take the reins of the presidency during Umaru Yar’Adua’s chaotic last days.


Diplomatic cables made public by WikiLeaks show that the American ambassador to Nigeria, Robin Sanders, instructed Goodluck Jonathan on how to get rid of former INEC Chairman, Mr. Maurice Iwu. Using the threat that the United States government would not support future elections if Iwu remained the INEC chairman, the ambassador suggested that Mr. Iwu be placed on terminal leave."


http://saharareporters.com/news-pag...ative-experience-jonathan-tells-us-ambassador



At the same time Unsecured weapons from Libya found thier hands into boko haarams hands and made the situation worse. Who is responsible for the current state of Libya?

The situation in Libya inadvertently caused weapons to be flooded into West Africa, and has played a role with the situations in the Western Sahara, Mali and of course Nigeria. But to say that was all intentional would be dishonest.


plus here is an article which highlights how americas blunders in the middle east is fueling boko haram. So america is basically helping us and stabbing us at the same time.


Well once again, where is the proof that the weapons going to Boko Haram are intentionally being sent there from the US? That’s what most of your links are explicitly stating.


Nigeria takes little interest in matters outside the continent. 9 times out of 10 Nigeria will align herself with the wishes of the majority


That may be correct, but , didn’t Naija vote in favor of the strike on Libya and also for recognition of the transitional council?

France cant be trusted. Frances has 60,000 troops on the continent and have great control over thier former colonies and as you know the majority are situated in west africa. Nigeria who has always pushed an african empowerment agenda has never been to close with France. Regardless of Nigerian and french/ british forces working together.

France has investments in Nigeria and wants to protects its investments. Exactly how would it be a benefit to them to fund Boko Haram? You do realize that Cameroon is also being adversely affected too right? Are they also funding the folks causing trouble in CAR and Mali?

To summarize, this is all a battle for influence. A Nigeria with leaders who are completely loyal to western interests on the continent will be a dream come true for the west

And the US wants more influence by utilizing more investment, diplomacy and more aid. Not by funding terrorist groups:

"Ambassador Carson informed the Foreign Minister that the U.S. had decided to open up a Consulate in Kano as a way to strengthen outreach to more than 75 million Muslims in Nigeria's
Northern States. Maduekwe, in turn, informed Ambassador Carson of the recent designation of a new Ambassador to the United States, whom he described as a "seasoned and professional career diplomat," now awaiting word from the State Department. Maduekwe regretted the events surrounding the previously-designated Ambassador had caused considerable strain and delays in identifying and appointing a new Ambassador."

Wikileaks Cable: 10ABUJA163

"Fawthrop asked the A/S whether he was in Nigeria to deliver a message or was it more of a fact-finding trip? A/S Carson stated that he was in Nigeria for both reasons in that he wanted to listen and engage with Nigeria. Nigeria is the most important country in Africa for the United States due to: the size of its population; presence of hydro-carbons; peace keeping role in ECOWAS, especially in Sierra Leone and Liberia; its seat on the United Nations Security Council; along with the strength and size of its financial markets the A/S continued. Nigeria has enormous potential and is the seventh largest Muslim country in the world with an Islamic population that will eclipse Egypt by 2015 according to A/S Carson. Having no United States presence in Northern Nigeria is akin to having no presence in Egypt and is why the United States is considering opening a Consulate in Kano."

CONTINUING FURTHER DOWN:

"Some places are more important than others within the Federal system of Nigeria and Lagos is one of the more important places, according to A/S Carson. Consulate General Lagos is bigger and more important than Embassies Benin and Togo together. Lagos is significantly more important than Cape Town even though the latter is 100 times better in terms of livability. The United States must be in Lagos in a significant way, A/S Carson declared.

The statements of the A/S sounded wonderful from a Hausa viewpoint, but nothing was mentioned about Southern and Eastern Nigeria, Fawthrop pointed out. The A/S agreed that Fawthrop was correct. The United States is underrepresented diplomatically, economically, commercially, militarily and from a security standpoint. When the A/S served in Nigeria from 1969-1971, the United States had the Embassy in Lagos with Consulates in Ibadan, Kaduna, and briefly in Port Harcourt, before the Civil war, and also a USIS post in Kano. With the Nigerian population at 50 million the United States was better and more broadly represented in a Nigeria that produced almost no oil. With an Embassy in Abuja and a Consulate in Lagos, the United States has experienced a “huge loss” in Nigeria today, per A/S Carson. The United States must get back into Enugu and Port Harcourt. “No presence means no access, which leads to no influence. Without influence you have nothing.”

Wikileaks Cable 10LAGOS75
 
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Regardless at the end of the day France threatened to level Nigeria over the bakassi issue. This was stated by the former Governor of Cross river state Donald Duke. He was someone who was on the inside and had access to information that people like us would not have.

An offhand remark by a former governor doesn't equate to a threat from France.
 

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No africom does not have a full base on the continent. They have a few monitoring and training centers and the drone base in Niger, but no african country has agreed to allow them to set up a full base. South Africa rejected their move to establish in their region and so did ethopia and nigeria


Edit: made a mistake. ethopia didn't reject it. I think they support it. I will need any Ethiopians on the coil to verify

Only Liberia agreed initially.
 
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