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Eddy Gordo

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Pink_Freud said:
How do,you ever expect to build and get real change if you never take the first step?

Your defeatist attitude is why nothing ever changes.

I'm not saying that a progressive party would win the presidency by next election, but if they started winning seats and building their platform a lot of ppl would be on it.

Most ppl are sick of the status quo, (hence why many voted and were suckered by trump). The progressives bring many things that ppl on both sides really want. They could do some damage if they wanted to.
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I am sorry if facts are inconvenient for you. In reality you need money. And don't say your gonna raise it from the people. The top 1 percent owns more than the bottom 90. The people can't outspend the elites. Your not gonna be able to win elections and keep your morals. Sorry:yeshrug:

Progressives need to develop a better plan than this stronger together shyt you pushing. It didn't work for HRC it ain't gonna work for you.
 
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Eddy Gordo said:
I am sorry if facts are inconvenient for you. In reality you need money. And don't say your gonna raise it from the people. The top 1 percent owns more than the bottom 90. The people can't outspend the elites. Your not gonna be able to win elections and keep your morals. Sorry:yeshrug:

Progressives need to develop a better plan than this stronger together shyt you pushing. It didn't work for HRC it ain't gonna work for you.
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the why bother fighting for any change if everything is gonna be an uphill battle?

you defeatist dudes kill me for real.


Also, there are many progressives in the 1%, not just that but the bulk of most campaigns come from small donor support anyway.
 
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JUSE_HEDD said:
Apparently your "free thought ass" is still studying America in the 19th century in college...come talk to us when they cover the Civil Rights Movement
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Just stated a facts. Both parties are run by racist white folks..
 
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Pink_Freud said:
the why bother fighting for any change if everything is gonna be an uphill battle?

you defeatist dudes kill me for real.


Also, there are many progressives in the 1%, not just that but the bulk of most campaigns come from small donor support anyway.
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Are you allergic to facts? I am not being a defeatist I am stating facts. These dudes have dedicated media networks for their propaganda and funded think tanks. So do you have a better plan than that stronger together.

Let's be completely honest. Most people who are sympathetic to progressive causes are young people. Who are also notoriously unreliable as voters. How do you get them to the polls?

And even if you get them at best all you do is split liberal votes. Cool you shot the Dems in foot but the Conservatives will just steamroll your agenda. Sure you maybe pull a few Congress seats but not enough to influence national policy.

You need a better plan.
 
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JUSE_HEDD said:
Apparently your "free thought ass" is still studying America in the 19th century in college...come talk to us when they cover the Civil Rights Movement
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The Black Panther said:
Civil War-era Democrats ≠ Modern Democrats

Civil War-era Republicans ≠ Modern Rethugs

And you're supposed to know your history. :blackvoter:
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Eddy Gordo said:
Are you allergic to facts? I am not being a defeatist I am stating facts. These dudes have dedicated media networks for their propaganda and funded think tanks. So do you have a better plan than that stronger together.

Let's be completely honest. Most people who are sympathetic to progressive causes are young people. Who are also notoriously unreliable as voters. How do you get them to the polls?

And even if you get them at best all you do is split liberal votes. Cool you shot the Dems in foot but the Conservatives will just steamroll your agenda. Sure you maybe pull a few Congress seats but not enough to influence national policy.

You need a better plan.
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bruh you keep saying facts...what are you even talking about?

facts are that the Dems are losing now, so why not at least start working towards building a party, even if it does take 20 years. it will be better for everyone with multiple parties.
 
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