All of yall are right...
I bounced around as an adolescent and when I landed in a stable environment with my parents (who are my stepparents but they were the only real parents I had and I will always treat them as such), I was told I'd have to hit the road at 18. Didn't make it that far, dropped out in my junior year of high school and got arrested three days after my 17th birthday and was sent up to prison at 17...
I got out at 20 and they allowed me back, which I will not undervalue because my bio mom wouldn't take me in, and my bio dad was in prison, and as I got older I realized a bunch of people don't have a home they can go back to, period, especially coming outta prison. I didn't realize this when I was 20 at the time, bit as I grew I've grown to appreciate my parents for who they are and what they provided relative to others...
But as soon as I got my first job, about 4 months after I got out (I was right back to selling drugs maybe a week and a half after I got out), it was a bunch of rules for shyt. Granted, my case is a little unique, in that my parents were trying to save me from going back to prison, and they didn't police my movements in that initial four months because they understood the euphoria and the space I needed to experience after incarceration....but that first job came with a ton of policing. It was difficult to adjust to, and I ended up staying with them for around 9.5 months before bouncing, but the constant looking over my shoulder, checking my car, now there was a curfew, etc, shyt was too much...
I went back twice, once for exactly one day short of a year after chilling back in Cali and NY, and another for about 9.5 months after running through GA and Charlotte, and at these ages I was 23/24, and 25/26. At the older ages it was even more restrictive, I was now an errand boy, expected to do even more. I paid rent the first time, now it was rent plus pay such and such bill...
I haven't had this convo with them, but to be fair to them, I think they were trying to drive a sense of home within me that I just recently accepted (as in right around my 29th birthday last summer). They are well aware of my disjointed childhood, rescued me from it, and long before I could realize it myself, I think saw the residual impacts my upbringing and youthful decisions were having on me as a young adult...
I also want to be fair and say both times I went back, I acknowledged the reset I desired was probably best established at their home rather than still on my own or elsewhere; kept getting locked up somewhere and a part of me wanted to leave that lifestyle for awhile but couldn't escape it by myself--->their home didn't invite or cultivate my lifestyle and I was grateful for it then, more grateful for it now. I just could never outrun my own tendencies, but the plan was always 6 months to a year there, and right back out, and I did it in 9.5 months, one year, 9.5 months, all three times, but again, couldn't escape myself...
Almost 30 now and I only recently in my age 29 year realized how flawed my thinking was, among other truths. I never should have capped or limited how long I could stay there, because while they did when I was a juvenile, telling me I had to roll at 18 (and that imprinted in my mind obviously effected my outlook for years), as an adult, they never told me I had to go...
Still, my parents, particularly my (step)mom, aren't the easiest people to deal with, and never were. My mom could be and was very emasculating and disrespectful if my 26 year old ass ever said I had other things to do. I grew resentful over being told I should follow their direction/path; I mostly always sold drugs but never had none at their home since early after prison at 20 years old. And they knew I still dealt, it wasn't a secret, and I appreciated they talks with me, and i tried to find jobs here and there to appease them, but that added to my resentment. Paying rent wasn't a problem, and buying groceries here and there wasn't...
All the other shyt was (being forced to give $250/month for groceries, even though half the time I didn't eat or spend the night there; being forced to run them on errands or go pick up shyt myself; being forced to run my mom to her therapy sessions; being forced to cut the grass and landscape they business home once/twice a month; double bolting the front door at 11pm even on nights I said I would be back soon, essentially making me stay at other people's cribs on nights I didn't want to if I wasn't "home by 11"; making me run my brother to and from work because they didn't want to; at different stretches, pay the phone bill, cable bill, electricity; guilt tripping me for saving me as a juvenile and letting me live with them repeatedly even though I wasn't deserving of it, on and on and on). Alot of this isn't attributable to me not having an actual job, because half the time I did...
For everything I was doing there, I could do it myself, and not have the headaches. Then came to find out they had financial trouble because my brother stole money from a bank account of theirs while he was in college and fukked they credit, so this is why they had me taking on extra Bill's, bit that wasn't transparent at the start. When it was mentioned it was told to me in a casual way and then they were offended I felt lied to and manipulated...
Wrote alot here, but here's my point:
If your parents allow you to stay with them, it has to be genuine. You can have house rules, as you are still the parent, but none of that strings attached shyt. None of that manipulative shyt, none of that emasculating, disrespectful shyt, nothing that detracts from actually being able to save and develop financial maturity and growth into a responsible adult. Because when it isn't genuine, the adult children know it and it becomes the impetus for us wanting to do shyt ourselves even IF it isn't the best option...
My daughters are going to be raised a little differently, starting with, there will be no mandate that they have to be gone at 18, and it will go from there...