No conspiracy: The Plane & The Pentagon

[NatiboyB]

What if the WTC was an inside bombing and what if the Michigan power outage was caused by an electromagnetic Pulse bomb....

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Since you have all the answers

What exactly caused WTC7 to fall? Because that fire in the video couldn't bring down a tree house.

Heat from the uncontrolled fires weakened the integrity of the steel structural supports in the building. The beams, incapable of bearing the load, failed.

WTC 7 fell due to gravity. Same as WTC 1 & 2.
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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

110 stories collapsed into what was essentially dust.......I don't think there was hardly any large debris at all

There really wasn't but that was due to the unique construction of the WTC buildings. Had they been constructed like 'conventional' skyscrapers, they might not have collapsed.

Most steel buildings have a web of steel like this...



The towers (1, 2 & 7) had most of the steel in this web on their skin to save office space. Like this...


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[beanz]

Those towers are built to withstand like 10 point earth quakes ,, you're telling me a plane hitting the top of a tower is gonna make the whole thing crumple ?

thats what had me like

it was such common knowledge at the time that there was no way these things would fall, that the fire department was walking in there like nothing. the operators were even telling people in the building to stay put. nobody on the news even thought to say "theres a chance they will collapse"

if the initial impact of the planes and the explosions didnt knock the top off, no way a fire would.

steel melts at 2500 degrees faranheit.

the fact that the smoke coming out of the buildings was black shows that the fires were not getting as much oxygen as fire needs to burn at its highest. it was estimated that the fire couldnt have gone past 1800 degrees faranheit at its hottest points. so there is no way that it burns hot enough to melt the metal.

shyt is just too suspicious.

 

[beanz]

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

thats what had me like

it was such common knowledge at the time that there was no way these things would fall, that the fire department was walking in there like nothing. the operators were even telling people in the building to stay put. nobody on the news even thought to say "theres a chance they will collapse"

if the initial impact of the planes and the explosions didnt knock the top off, no way a fire would.

steel melts at 2500 degrees faranheit.

the fact that the smoke coming out of the buildings was black shows that the fires were not getting as much oxygen as fire needs to burn at its highest. it was estimated that the fire couldnt have gone past 1800 degrees faranheit at its hottest points. so there is no way that it burns hot enough to melt the metal.

shyt is just too suspicious.

The steel didn't have to melt in order for it to be weakened enough to be unable to support the weight of the rest of the structure and there is no skyscraper on Earth built to withstand a magnitude 10 earthquake.
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[Field Marshall Bradley]

Heat from the uncontrolled fires weakened the integrity of the steel structural supports in the building. The beams, incapable of bearing the load, failed.

WTC 7 fell due to gravity. Same as WTC 1 & 2.
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So basically, its the first high rise with steel framework to free fall collapse from gravity.....Basically you saying that ll the internal steelwork reached the exact melting point temp at the same time?

 

[beanz]

The steel didn't have to melt in order for it to be weakened enough to be unable to support the weight of the rest of the structure and there is no skyscraper on Earth built to withstand a magnitude 10 earthquake.
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The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The fire caused extensive window breakage, which complicated firefighting efforts. Large flames jutted out of the building during the blaze. Firefighting efforts resulted in massive water damage to floors below the fire, and the fire gutted offices from the 12th to the 16th floor, and caused extensive smoke damage to floors above.

no other skyscrapers have ever fallen due to fires and this one in particular burned for 3 and a half hours from the 12th to the 16th and the almost 50 floors above it did not collapse

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So basically, its the first high rise with steel framework to free fall collapse from gravity.....Basically you saying that ll the internal steelwork reached the exact melting point temp at the same time?

No. What I'm saying (and has been scientifically proven), is that as steel is heated, it loses it's strength and becomes subject to a force known as strain. Building 7 was on fire for about 6 hours at temperatures reaching 1800 deg. F. The steel lost about 20-30%+ of it's strength and was no longer able to support the weight it was designed to.

To say it was the first time a high-rise with steel framework collapsed completely ignores the fact that these buildings were not constructed in the same fashion as 'conventional' skyscrapers.

It would be more accurate to say 'It is the first time skyscrapers constructed in a 'tube-in-a-tube' design have ever collapsed after being on fire for 6-7 hours'.

Also, these were the ONLY skyscrapers constructed in that manner so of course, they would be the first.......and only.

They did not fall at 'free-fall' speed. I can show you the math to support this assertion.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

no other skyscrapers have ever fallen due to fires and this one in particular burned for 3 and a half hours from the 12th to the 16th and the almost 50 floors above it did not collapse

That skyscraper was built in a 'conventional' manner. WTC 1, 2 & 7 were a 'tube-in-a-tube' design that was unique in the world.

You're comparing apples to pears.

Most steel buildings have a web of steel like this...



The towers (1, 2 & 7) had most of the steel in this web on their skin to save office space. Like this...

 

[beanz]

That skyscraper was built in a 'conventional' manner. WTC 1, 2 & 7 were a 'tube-in-a-tube' design that was unique in the world.

You're comparing apples to pears.

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shyt is suspicious anyway u slice it. even if the building collapses were legit, and it really was a plane that hit the pentagon, these fukkers knew this shyt was gonna go down and they let it happen

 

[CakeEater]

U nikkas don't want the truth

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

shyt is suspicious anyway u slice it. even if the building collapses were legit, and it really was a plane that hit the pentagon, these fukkers knew this shyt was gonna go down and they let it happen

That's what I've been arguing. I'd really like to get irrefutable evidence that these mufukkas were negligent. Positing that they orchestrated the attacks in order to achieve the goal of an unpopular and unwarranted war is believing our Government is more competent than anyone could imagine.

We ALL know that ain't true.
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[LordTaskForce]

That's what I've been arguing. I'd really like to get irrefutable evidence that these mufukkas were negligent. Positing that they orchestrated the attacks in order to achieve the goal of an unpopular and unwarranted war is believing the Government is more competent than anyone could imagine.

We ALL know that ain't true.
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Irrefutable evidence that the government was "negligent"? If the government orchestrated the attacks how would that be negligence? You smart dumb nikkas need to stop with the conspiracy stuff

 

[beanz]

america is the evil empire man

after about 150 years in existence it was already one of if not the most powerful countries in the world. that doesnt happen without a ton of shady backstage shyt