"No flowers, no planned dates, just “wyd” texts & 50/50"

BigMan

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well duh, but again, if a woman likes you - ie wants to spend time with you - then it stands to reason she's also sexually attracted to you. just cuz she aint fukking you on day 3 doesn't mean she's not attracted. if she's short with you, cold, distant, uncommunicative, then of course she aint feeling you and move on.
Simply Spending time with someone doesn’t mean she wants to fukk you :mjlol:

What :mjlol:
ThAts something I expect a breh to say :mjlol:
 

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But see that’s issue. I don’t think most people are broken. I think most people are average. But the problem is that average good men and women are dealing with mentally broken people.
Why? Because average people trying to find the easiest path to getting what they want and average people ain’t happy with average anymore. They wanna be playas and IG $400 date chicks too. So they deal with desperate bums and psychos to try and find a way to flex without having to put any effort in. And when they can’t flex, guess what they do? They LIE!

A LOT of people ain’t fukking. They are LYING! You know what a lotta my male friends complain about? They complain about chicks pump faking on them all the time. Talm bout how she gon suck this and fukk that and when they meet up, them chicks ain’t doing shyt.

And these are attractive men! That’s one part of the problem. But they believe the lies other men tell them when men be bragging on their dikks and how much p*ssy they getting. And they believe the lies women tell when they be talking all this sex shyt, twerking and hoe is life. And they believe everything everybody says and it’s got them paralyzed. Meanwhile, There’s women outchea who haven’t fukked in months and years other than a dildo.:mjlol:

And ironically in spite of sex being EVERYWHERE in the media and shyt, people are actually having less of it.
Stop listening to and dealing with broken people.

Also, for men, the ones who are fukking…are fukking broken bytches because they give up p*ssy easy. So men think ONLY these types of chicks exist. But if they weren’t willing to only deal with broken, desperate easy p*ssy chicks, they’d see there’s a whole nother realm of normal chicks out there.

But when you only deal with shyt because that’s the easiest path then shyt is the only thing you smell.

And when you do deal with a cool chick, you end up thinking the same dumb shyt supposed to work on her as the desperate bum bytch that was willing to suck yo dikk if you took her to McDonalds and got her kids some nuggets too.

So if that’s what’s happening I guess chicks who do like small romantic gestures and wanna actually get to know you do look goofy or crazy.

“Da fukk you want flowers fo goofy bytch! Betta take this meat and be happy wit it Ms. Independent!”
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:In reality there are still shyt tons of normal, good men and women who ain’t with the dumb shyt online. Plenty of people who ain’t trying to play games, are sweet, funny, charming, hard working, cute, loving.

But let the internet tell it, everybody getting their back blown out by thugs, on drugs fukkin on dirty mattresses, using people for sex and $400 dates and if you ain’t fukking a chick within 3 mins of knowing her or if he ain’t buying you a car on the first date, you a simp or a basic bytch getting used.

:mindblown:Who the fukk lives like this?! Frfr.
Sorry for the rant. But we gotta get real. Twitter ain’t real life.

I went to the Upper Room x2!
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Lmao! Leave me alone!!! I’m only human! :to:A man with a clean crib that cooks is a weakness! I swear it takes me FOREVER to cut veggies when I’m meal prepping or cooking.
(googles “chiffonade”)

:ohhh: I never knew the actual name for that…

Look at that casual flex…:whew: You be showing out…I see you.
:banderas::wub:

I got 2 exes that would bytch because i do my own cooking instead of them having to cook for me.
I thought that would be a breath of fresh air for women but i guess not in my case
 

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does it matter? if you actually want to be with her, you'll be fine having sex on the third date or third month. nothing is stopping you from smashing someone you don't want to be with in the interim...edit: if there weren't so many double standards about sex and so many men who hit and quit, a woman who is seriously interested might feel comfortable putting out early, but that's not the message that's engrained in us - we're taught to wait when we want a man to take us seriously, so again, if you like the chick, doesn't matter if you have to wait, she's likely doing that as a way to feel secure about having sex with you and what will come of that

um, no. again, not sure who yall are dealing with, but yes, outside the first date, there should be effort from both sides. i've never just sat around waiting for a man to decide everything. and i usually pay for stuff by date 2/3 if i'm feeling him, a chick with her shyt together and interested in you should have no problem planning or paying for something. and conversationalist? it takes two people to have conversations...

yall complain just like silly women. again, maybe you should date better/more interesting/better established women

1) it's easy to say "if you like her it's fine". Imagine if you were dating a guy that spent money going on dates with women in the past, but when he dates you, he's randomly cheap. You wouldn't feel some type of way?

The whole point that I and others have implied is that despite social convention criticizing women for having early sex, the whole point is that they still break that rule if they like you.

As a guy, from my perspective, it's hard for me to justify doing that.

And comeon. Not every woman is like you. Some are, but a lot won't budge. A lot still expect you as a man to stay do the bulk of the paying, leading, etc.

So why should I do that. And then not even get any sex out of it possibly if it turns out we don't like each other ? I basically spent money to find out I don't like someone. Of course it's not a problem for you because that expectation isn't on you. But it is for a guy. Of course you think it's just "silly complaining" though :comeon:

And saying "date better women" is a stupid response. If it were that simple I wouldn't be discussing this.

Ain’t nothing to be unaware of. Too many people too scared or anxious to do anything these days. Dating included. People don’t even have FRIENDS, so I’m not surprised that dating has become a huge damn event.
:deadmanny:
But that’s part of the problem. People have lived in their heads so much, taken a bunch of cues from online shyt that they got crazy expectations. They’ve built the process up so much that something as simple as meeting people has become this monumental colossus.

I said what I said. Dating should be an enjoyable experience. It’s as simple as you planning something you like to do, and inviting the person you are interested in along to do it with you.
That’s it.

Simple shyt. But because some of these dudes got these ideas in their head from offline that everybody is getting p*ssy on the first date, and chicks think every girl is getting $300 dates, they feel like they getting curved if they put in even the bare minimum effort and not getting sloppy head or a Fendi bag seconds within meeting a random person.

“I guess she/he don’t like me!”:mjlol:

That’s what’s stressful.
So they try all this autistic ass PUA shyt, can’t be themselves, sound weird as fukk, escalating to sex every 10 seconds like they thirsty as hell, trying to get nikkas to drop major bread on them and just come off looking weird and creepy instead of being themselves and letting the chips fall where they may.

Men AND women out here looking stupid as hell because they trying to sell themselves to people they want to impress instead of moving with people that actually LIKE them.

Dating is a simple sweet process. I met a guy at a damn bagel shop yesterday. And we sat and just enjoyed each other’s company until my homegirl came through and worked on some dissertation shyt.

People have lost the art of simply BEING with someone b/c they too worried about what they can get outta somebody else. And they worried about that b/c they comparing their lives to dummies fake flexing on the internet.

I swear people just slow ass hell these days.:weirdo:

My point is that you're romanticizing dating as a great experience for both parties and that we have all been bamboozled by the internet.

Of course you miss those days. In the scenario where you don't meet a guy that pressures you for sex, dating and romantic gestures end up benefitting the woman. I still gotta pay, plan, etc. And make sure that I prove myself of being worthy to some chick that probably, in all honesty, wouldn't make you go this far if she really likes you. Why should I waste time doing all this and going days, weeks, etc. Without sex? Especially since not every woman is some perfect altruistic angel.

Some of these chicks do this while still fukking dudes in the side. Others do it and lead you on for free meals. This happens. And these chicks aren't bringing anything else sometimes! :mindblown: It does happen like that. Maybe not with you but with others it does. :manny:


This is why a lot of guys don't want to do this shyt. I won't do it. The early stages of dating really isn't this "fun experience" for a lot of men. It's annoying. This is why i asked if you are unaware or not. Because I thought it's obvious why men aren't doing this anymore.

I'm not saying yall women can't have that, I'm just explaining why most guys won't take part it in. After all, plenty of women abstain from shyt they've dealt with from men. Men are doing the same thing now. I wish women had a sign on their head indicating if they are good or not.

It's hard to even explain why it legit gives me bad feelings.

Read my reply to the other poster right above this for an analogy to see if you can understand.
 

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I got 2 exes that would bytch because i do my own cooking instead of them having to cook for me.
I thought that would be a breath of fresh air for women but i guess not in my case

Question - When someone cares for you, are words and no actions sufficient for you?
 

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Simply Spending time with someone doesn’t mean she wants to fukk you :mjlol:

What :mjlol:
ThAts something I expect a breh to say :mjlol:
the hell...are we having a conversation about just trying to fukk someone or date? who the hell spends time with a person they don't like? if yall keep having dates/hanging out and communicating it suffices to say the person is interested in you. like i said, if you just want to have sex, then ok, leave if you can't get in her pants quickly, but if you're hanging out with the chick and see her as relationship material, then why are you pressed for sex from her early on? it'll happen.

women aint spending quality time with you if they dont like you. like i said, if she only comes around when you're offering to take her out or do something for her, then duh, it's a signal she's just in it to get something. if she's calling you, inviting you to hang at her place, happy to link up and take a walk, yall run boring errands together, etc. that's someone who is interested in being with you and thus sexually attracted as well.
 

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women don't see every man as relationship worthy, just like yall don't see every woman as wifey material. a woman might give it up easily to a nikka not doing anything for her because all she wants from him is some consistent D - shocking!! don't matter if he's not doing anything for her because she couldn't give AF about what he thinks of her since she aint trying to date him :ohhh: just make your D/face available when she calls and KIM

I rather be this guy :russ:
 

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the hell...are we having a conversation about just trying to fukk someone or date? who the hell spends time with a person they don't like? if yall keep having dates/hanging out and communicating it suffices to say the person is interested in you. like i said, if you just want to have sex, then ok, leave if you can't get in her pants quickly, but if you're hanging out with the chick and see her as relationship material, then why are you pressed for sex from her early on? it'll happen.

women aint spending quality time with you if they dont like you. like i said, if she only comes around when you're offering to take her out or do something for her, then duh, it's a signal she's just in it to get something. if she's calling you, inviting you to hang at her place, happy to link up and take a walk, yall run boring errands together, etc. that's someone who is interested in being with you and thus sexually attracted as well.
Y’all gotta stop think you’re own experiences are the only truth. If you don’t hang out with nikkas you don’t like great for you, but not every women is like that. A friend of mine recently broke up with her boyfriend of three years who she disliked. She stayed with him Because “he was nice to me” her words.

millions of people do the bold every day. Some of those people even get married to each other and have children. :mjlol:Many of us wouldn’t exist if our parents or grandparents only dated people they actually liked :mjlol:

have you ever dated women ? I think some of the disconnect here is that some of y’all women don’t believe that women be doing the things we men say they do
 
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I rather be this guy :russ:
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I think most brehs feel the same way. That’s a fukking win if I could find a shorty who only knows it’s her job and my job to provide pleasure. Nothing more nothing less. Only come through for this and not that. And I don’t have to to shyt but chicken wings and fries at best? Shieeeeet…

Most of the time they end up catching feelings when you dikk them down right and shyt falls through. But then again, I’m coming from the perspective of a high earning young breh so they also want to lock me down :lolbron:
 

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1) it's easy to say "if you like her it's fine". Imagine if you were dating a guy that spent money going on dates with women in the past, but when he dates you, he's randomly cheap. You wouldn't feel some type of way?

The whole point that I and others have implied is that despite social convention criticizing women for having early sex, the whole point is that they still break that rule if they like you.

As a guy, from my perspective, it's hard for me to justify doing that.

And comeon. Not every woman is like you. Some are, but a lot won't budge. A lot still expect you as a man to stay do the bulk of the paying, leading, etc.

So why should I do that. And then not even get any sex out of it possibly if it turns out we don't like each other ? I basically spent money to find out I don't like someone. Of course it's not a problem for you because that expectation isn't on you. But it is for a guy. Of course you think it's just "silly complaining" though :comeon:

And saying "date better women" is a stupid response. If it were that simple I wouldn't be discussing this.
No...because i wouldn't know what he did in the past. I'm going to judge him by what he's doing with me. I find it perfectly acceptable to do something cheap or free on the first couple of dates - especially if yall met online.

there are no hard and fast rules about when a woman will have sex, i never said that. what i did say is you can't jump to the conclusion sex won't happen just because she's slow to give it up. plenty of women who are dating for a LTR will hold out longer, there is a lot of insecurity around sex too early as there are millions of examples of men who bounce once they get the ass. she can really like you but want to be sure you like her for more than sex, that there is potential for it to lead somewhere. why is this a problem? if you're taking out women just to have sex, one, there's your issue...two, move on if they're not fukking you fast enough, she's either not into you or she's hoping yall can be more than what you want to be with her.

and again, i don't know what lame women yall are around who can't throw out some suggestions of shyt to do. we want to give you space to be a man - so yes, we want to allow you to lead the pursuit - as most men prefer to do - so maybe the first couple of dates are things you thought of, but no one is asking you to come up with the moon and stars as things to do - most people do/like normal shyt - restaurants, bar, coffee, walks, picnic, live music, comedy show, if that's a lot of mental work, i don't know what to tell you.

by date 3-4, yall should be a bit comfortable with each other. you call a woman up and say let's hang out on saturday, plenty of women will drop things they want to do as yall discuss where to meet/what to do. if they don't, that's an opening to get to know her more - "what would you like to do" "where would you be going if we weren't hanging out" "any place you've been wanting to visit"...if a woman can't answer any of this, she's an idiot, boring AF or waaay too passive. what person has nothing they like doing or nowhere they like/want to go?
 
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