No, Hope Solo Is Not "Like" Ray Rice

[The Devil's Advocate]

There's one Lela Ali for every 100000 women out there but y'all making them a common thing just to win an argument

No I'm not making them common. But it's bullshyt to make a blanket statement like "men can kick womens ass so it's cool when they slap us with a frying pan" type arguments

Yea women are smaller. That's why they tend to pick up shyt and hurl it at us. As a man I've had to dodge all types of shyt from my mother on down the list. I've been stabbed with a damn fork by a woman for playfully grabbing her hips when she was mad. And that was my girl

But let me be mad and her play with me and I calmly backslap her real quick. Or just push her off me and she hits her head

Oh it's bloody murder and I'm a wife beater and arrest me and ruin my life etc.


I'm not excusing Ray rice. There is nothing lower on earth to me than woman beaters, child abusers (no not AP) and rapists. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna give a pass to women who slap, punch and use weapons on men simply because "well they are smaller"

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

There's one Lela Ali for every 100000 women out there but y'all making them a common thing just to win an argument

And what about battered woman syndrome? Shouldn't it be battered person??

Women get beat and kill their husband and its cause they were beat for so long. So if my wife is the type to slap the shyt out of me on occasion, and I kill her later, you think I'm getting that battered husband shyt? Fuuuuck no

It's called a double standard. You can justify it. But let's not play the "it doesn't exist" game

 

[NYC Rebel]

And what about battered woman syndrome? Shouldn't it be battered person??

Women get beat and kill their husband and its cause they were beat for so long. So if my wife is the type to slap the shyt out of me on occasion, and I kill her later, you think I'm getting that battered husband shyt? Fuuuuck no

It's called a double standard. You can justify it. But let's not play the "it doesn't exist" game

If your wife slaps you and you respond, she opened that door for a response. I don't get how you guys are still using Laila Ali examples of women being as brolic as men.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

If your wife slaps you and you respond, she opened that door for a response. I don't get how you guys are still using Laila Ali examples of women being as brolic as men.

What??? I'm not even sure how those two sentences go together

Ali was talking about the point people saying women are smaller so it's ok for them to hit you and not you them. Well what if she isn't smaller, then what?

then I went about answering my own question. If Ali hit me, her being bigger and trained... If I hit her back, they'd still make my life hell and tell me I should have ran away and blah blah blah.

Basically when a woman hits you, regardless of size or with what, you have zero wins. You run and a woman beat your ass. You hit her and omg she's a woman you deadbeat

That's a double standard. How is that even debatable

 

[mastermind]

You're literally a waste of space. Instead of explaining how black men benefit from insitutional sexism you quote me to say "nu uh". Did you jus want to get my attention or what?

Because it is completely untrue. You need to read a book or journal on black feminism or black male sexism. Or just read about the civil rights movement. shyt, just watch your favorite rap video.

You, like a lot of the "brehs" on this forum, refuse to see anything except through your own lens which is why you cant understand how all men benefit from this Patriarchal society over women.

 

[Drew Wonder]

I really hope some of ya'll aren't the same ones who complain about white folks constantly going to the tired and simplistic "reverse racism" argument. because ya'll are pretty much doing the same thing here, same mentality, same oversimplification, same complete disregard for context

 

[Drew Wonder]

I don't even know wtf you're saying to me, so i'll just clarify in general terms. He took that typical white route of comparing everything to black people and racism. I don't like that he's referencing rappers and trying to make comparisons to the shyt black people have to put up with in this country. He's trying to point out some double standard by taking that "but but what about black on black crime?" white stance,

Did you notice he said that lynching "was not solely confined to black people"? fukking lynching was damn near invented by white people to use against black people, so again with the minimization of black issues.

He can make his point without bringing in black people, and mentioning rappers and all that. Don't compare punching a woman to all the shyt black people have endured in this damn country,

you missed his point. he's saying that even though other people have been lynched, it's identity is still rooted in the victimization of black people, just like even though there are other victims of domestic violence, its identity is still rooted in the victimization of women

he's not caping for white folks. he's arguing that the people who jump to the double standard argument with Hope Solo are doing the same thing that white folks do when they jump to the double standard argument whenever it comes to "reverse racism," completely ignoring historical context

 

[Drew Wonder]

This is the same dude who just wrote "The Case for Reparations." The entire angle you're using against him is ridiculous. You're not even coming close to making any sort of sense. His response is NOTHING like other groups trying to compare their plights to that of African-Americans directly. If anything he was doing the exact opposite. It's stuff like this that makes it impossible to have a legitimate discussion with 99% of the coli. You make up your minds off of thread titles, preconceived notions and the interpretations of other posters who did not even read the article. How the fukk is him saying that obviously we view the death of Emmitt Till different than we view the death of 2Pac given the backdrop of what Emmit Till's death represented offensive oer equivalent to people referring to black on black crime

It's scary how similar the Coli is to Fox News, just a complete inability to look at a complex issue beyond a simplistic black and white perspective

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Shout out to @NYC Rebel and @mastermind and @Mwakenya I can't with the rest of these dudes. This is another reason why I always say that having a lot of daps and having people support you on the coli is not reflective of strong posting or critical thinking--it's reflective of representing the popular opinion of a particular group. This entire thread is an exercise in red herrings and strawmen.

 

[kevm3]

It's scary how similar the Coli is to Fox News, just a complete inability to look at a complex issue beyond a simplistic black and white perspective

There's no need to look at a simplistic issue with more than a simplistic response. We've seen countless men get roasted over domestic violence as they should have, and we see 10,000 stop domestic violence commercials, and yet when it's a woman committing domestic violence, it's swept under the rug and written off. Max Kellerman gets suspended from his show for saying on his show how he got slapped by his wife and slapped her back 20 years ago, but nothing happened to Sharon Osbourne who was laughing and mocking a man getting his penis cut off and thrown in the garbage disposal



but buut a woman slicing off a man's penis with a knife isn't that bad because she doesn't have that much strength!

 

[TKOK]

What's this about pummeling? Ray hit her twice, and while it was obviously real bad, it's not like he did some Brock Lesnar ground and pound.

 

[Gravity]

Because it is completely untrue. You need to read a book or journal on black feminism or black male sexism. Or just read about the civil rights movement. shyt, just watch your favorite rap video.

You, like a lot of the "brehs" on this forum, refuse to see anything except through your own lens which is why you cant understand how all men benefit from this Patriarchal society over women.

I understand things that make sense. It's not my fault that you aren't intelligent enough to make a sensical argument here. You say that black men benefit from institutional sexism in this society and your argument supporting that basically boils down to "because......read about the civil rights movement ......uh........look at rap videos rap videos.......you need to read some black feminist propaganda". If you can't do any better than this then you shouldn't have even quoted me.

The civil rights movement was not an institution. Furthermore there were no rights that were afforded to black men courtesy of that movement that were not afforded to black women also. Black men and women "benefitted" the same from the civil rights movement. Whatever sexism that was going on back then was perpetrated by individual men who were not empowered by a system or institution.

Rap videos? Black men don't control the hip hop/rap industry. A lot of these guys don't even have control over their own videos. The rappers are being exploited too.

It's clear that you don't even know what institutional sexism is. Institutional sexism refers to ways in which people are discriminated against systematically based on their sex. Black men don't have any control in the system and aren't systematically privileged over women. White women are clearly privileged in this system/society over black men. There are a lot of ways that black women are privileged in this society over black men too. White men are the only one's who benefit from systematic sexism. This isn't a patriarchal society, it's a white male patriarchal society. Black men don't benefit from institutional sexism we're victimized by it. If you took your head out of the sand and looked around you'd see that there are certain forms of discrimination in this society that effect black men more than any other demographic. The way that law enforcement and the judicial system as a whole systematically targets black men is a form of institutional sexism. Black men are discriminated against in the job market more than any other demographic. That's another example of institutional sexism.

You're a shyt poster.

 

[Gravity]

I really hope some of ya'll aren't the same ones who complain about white folks constantly going to the tired and simplistic "reverse racism" argument. because ya'll are pretty much doing the same thing here, same mentality, same oversimplification, same complete disregard for context

Racism is a system dumb fukk. White racists are allowed to discriminate and are protected from being punished for their discrimination by the system. There is no system that will protect you for being a woman beater. It's a stupid comparison.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

so for the nikkas ing

does America consider crime perpetrated by minorities less than the violence perpetrated by Whites




seems to be quite the opposite





perhaps these hoes should be held accountable too

 

[mastermind]

....

yeah, Im not even reading any more of this. You are fukking idiot.