*No jinx*If Timmy wins his 5th ship can we put him ahead of Kobe as....

[GreatestLaker]

Tim never defended his title but he ain't never missed the playoffs either like Kobe has. If the only negative thing you can say about Tim is that he never went back to back then I can live with that

The lowest win total Tim ever had in a 82 game season is 50 wins. Kobe had a 3 season stretch of 34 wins, 45 wins and 42 wins and had 2 first round exits and a trip to the NBA lottery during that span

Get the fukk outta my face bruh

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But he lost as the #1 seed to the 8th seed and lost 6 times to a lower seed in the playoffs. That's just as bad if not worse.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I hate when people do this shyt. Duncan always had a great supporting cast.

Spurs fans love to brag that their GM is the best at finding and developing great players, but then on the other hand they love to say that Duncan never had any help.

So what is it?

Compared to the other teams Duncan's supporting cast was always one of the best.

Only players that the Spurs found and developed were Tony and Manu.

Everybody else was either a cheap free agent, ring chasing veteran, or NBA castoff other than George Hill and Kawhi prior to last season who were the first 2 Spurs first round draft picks since Tony Parker way back in 2001.

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[AlbertPullhoez]

Duncan been irrelevant since 07. His good year this year made people forget Tony Parker has been their best player and the reason why they are in the finals.

That said, i won't argue with you if you say he's the best player of the generation if he wins another ring, but let's not act he's been all great these last few years. First year making all nba team in what, 6 years lol?

Irrelevant since 07 yet he made All-NBA 2nd Team in 08 and 09 and All-NBA 3rd Team in 2010?

Stop making yourself look like an ass

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[AlldayNE]

Lose how? It was Kobe that was dominating the Spurs during the Shaq years you ain't watch the games?

Bynum/Pau yeah, but you tellin me a team of Bynum and Pau goes back to back without Kobe?

We get it, yall want to sweep Kobe under the rug once and for all but its just not happening. Your man all time in the playoffs is Kobe's bytch and he finally just tying him after years of absolute irrelevance. Why yall keep puttin these worthless fukks on the same level as our era's greatest? Shame yall never got to appreciate actual greatness...:wow2:

Lets not act like in 01 Shaq wasn't averaging 27/13, Kobe was beastin in 02, but Shag was still dropping 24/12. Next year Shaq was averaging 25/14. Were you watching those games? Again he was a big part in why Kobe was going off. Awfully easy when you're not the one they wanted to double team.

Are you implying that Tony Parker and Manu win 3 without Duncan?

This is just a comparison, the Lakers have always put talent around Kobe aside from maybe one year where he practically begged them to trade him. Where as the Spurs drafted pieces that fit around their superstar player. This can go on for days btw.

 

[Trojan 24]

Only players that the Spurs found and developed were Tony and Manu.

Everybody else was either a cheap free agent, ring chasing veteran, or NBA castoff other than George Hill and Kawhi prior to last season who were the first 2 Spurs first round draft picks since Tony Parker way back in 2001.

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To bad they let go of Scola. Maybe he could have dragged Duncan's corpse to the finals between 2007 and now.







But seriously they messed up letting him go

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Tim never defended his title but he ain't never missed the playoffs either like Kobe has. If the only negative thing you can say about Tim is that he never went back to back then I can live with that

The lowest win total Tim ever had in a 82 game season is 50 wins. Kobe had a 3 season stretch of 34 wins, 45 wins and 42 wins and had 2 first round exits and a trip to the NBA lottery during that span

Get the fukk outta my face bruh

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nikka you was coppin pleas to dodge this Lakeset GOAT franchise shyt a few months ago cuz we taught yall damn well what a real ass whippin feel like in a decade's time. All that shyt you spouted out is irrelevant, duncan and the skirts is Kobe's lil son in the playoffs alltime and he yall ain't never repeat. How can that be respected when GOAT franchise repeated twice?

Settle for equals, there's nothing wrong with that cuz Duncan is an all time great and the GOAT PF ever. But Kobe edges him out imo in regards to this generation.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

To bad they let go of Scola. Maybe he could have dragged Duncan's corpse to the finals between 2007 and now.







But seriously they messed up letting him go

That still pisses me off to this day how we missed out on Luis Scola. His offense would've been a huge help during the 2008-2010 seasons

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[Mac071415]

no cuz he was irrelevant from 2008-2012

And your daddy Kobe was irrelevant from 05-08.

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[AlbertPullhoez]

nikka you was coppin pleas to dodge this Lakeset GOAT franchise shyt a few months ago cuz we taught yall damn well what a real ass whippin feel like in a decade's time. All that shyt you spouted out is irrelevant, duncan and the skirts is Kobe's lil son in the playoffs alltime and he yall ain't never repeat. How can that be respected when GOAT franchise repeated twice?

Settle for equals, there's nothing wrong with that cuz Duncan is an all time great and the GOAT PF ever. But Kobe edges him out imo in regards to this generation.

All you can bring up is Duncan not repeating yet your ass continually dance around your boy winning 34 and 40 something games, missing the playoffs and being in the draft lottery.

How you gonna be the GOAT player of a generation with a 34 win season in your prime?

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[billsburydoughboy]

Who says Tim hasnt dominated? His game isnt flashy so he gets written off as boring which isnt what people want to see Never heard anyone call timmy selfish

Never said he wasn't dominant. I've always thought he was a top 10 player. However, Kobe is the complete package if you ignore the fact that he will fadeaway from the 3 point line with 3 defenders guarding him.

You obviously didn't watch the NBA post 1998. Duncan was very dominant, dude was the best player in the league for a good 8 year stretch.

He wasn't as dominant as Kobe yet he got more MVP's, more Finals MVP's and a better winning percentage than Kobe. fukking moron you

Kobe stans feeling like a baby mama about to get her child support checks taken away

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Post 1998? I used to watch Duncan back when him and Childress used to ball at Wake Forest.

8 years as the best player you say? What 8 years were those? Year in and year out for the past years I've only heard Kobe and Lebron's name bought up by people around the league as the best players. I also recall Shaq being thought of as the best post player in the game when he was in his prime. So what 8 years was Tim the best player in the game?

you can make an argument that duncan has done more with less
only thing dat's a glitch on his resume is the no back to backs
but again, he's never played with the players that kobe has
spurs rotation for as long as i remember are always full with diamonds in the rough and players that no body wanted.

you can make an argument that he has played with no superstars

That's an acceptable argument. I just wanted to see why this keeps getting bought up. I hardly ever see this argument outside the coli.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Never said he wasn't dominant. I've always thought he was a top 10 player. However, Kobe is the complete package if you ignore the fact that he will fadeaway from the 3 point line with 3 defenders guarding him.


Post 1998? I used to watch Duncan back when him and Childress used to ball at Wake Forest.

8 years as the best player you say? What 8 years were those? Year in and year out for the past years I've only heard Kobe and Lebron's name bought up by people around the league as the best players. I also recall Shaq being thought of as the best post player in the game when he was in his prime. So what 8 years was Tim the best player in the game?


That's an acceptable argument. I just wanted to see why this keeps getting bought up. I hardly ever see this argument outside the coli.

because ducan is boring and kobe is not
duncan plays for the spurs, kobe plays in hollywood
i've said this many times before, if duncan played for da knicks, he'd be known as the greatest biggest big man ever

 

[OGmittee]

Hmm kinda intrigued by this tho, both sides have cases.

Since they are in the same conference for so many years, can i get a breakdown of head to head playoff series from a fan of either side? Im not a big fan of either team so i genuinely dont know how theyve fared against each other. Also for that matter who would you say the head to head matchups in regular seasons has gone to?

Both Kobe stans and Spurs fans hate me so i doubt i'll get any kind of response tho

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Lets not act like in 01 Shaq wasn't averaging 27/13, Kobe was beastin in 02, but Shag was still dropping 24/12. Next year Shaq was averaging 25/14. Were you watching those games? Again he was a big part in why Kobe was going off. Awfully easy when you're not the one they wanted to double team.

Are you implying that Tony Parker and Manu win 3 without Duncan?

This is just a comparison, the Lakers have always put talent around Kobe aside from maybe one year where he practically begged them to trade him. Where as the Spurs drafted pieces that fit around their superstar player. This can go on for days btw.

1:01 on video #3 ...

Damn I miss those Kobe/Shaq teams, that 01 team was truly special...:wow2:


Lakers had a total of 4 years without good enough talent around Kobe in his career and 2 of those years fell in his absolute peak as a player which is why I couldn't blame him for the trade demand, a lot of yall forget that this was when jim was beginning to slowly take over the team and it took the 05 debacle and this situation to change things.

Meanwhile, Duncan has had a much more stable situation with an equally legendary coach, superb all stars and role players for teammates, immaculate scouting and drafting, these aren't things Kobe had. For all the talent GOAT franchise has gotten to have in Kobe's term I think if he had gone down the career path Duncan did in terms of the environment and type of team he'd have way more titles.

 

[verbaltelekinesis]

I'll go the simple route since nikkas want to just ignore that Kobe is 4 - 2 against Duncan in the playoffs. And it's a DOMINATING 4 - 2!

How is Duncan better than Kobe, when Kobe has personally stopped Duncan from getting at least 2 and most probably 3 more rings? It doesn't add up...

You have a losing playoff record against me
I have been the best player on the court CONSISTENTLY when we play
I have been to the finals more times than you have(4 times with Shaq, 3 times without)

Interesting tidbit, Kobe's playoff numbers against the Spurs from(99 - 08)...

28.2ppg 47.3%FG 35%3pt 6rbs 5assts
2 40 pt games
8 games of 35 or more
11 games of 30+
Held under 20 points only 2 times in 30 games played against the Spurs in the playoffs.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

All you can bring up is Duncan not repeating yet your ass continually dance around your boy winning 34 and 40 something games, missing the playoffs and being in the draft lottery.

How you gonna be the GOAT player of a generation with a 34 win season in your prime?

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So its his fault the team was some shyt now? '05 he got injured and the coach quit, '06-'07 the team around him was some shyt, this year we had injuries, a cokehead running basketball operations and we replaced a coach that should of never been hired with the scum of the basketball world, gtfoh Duncan had all this stability and all these winning seasons and yall JUST tying LA in titles for the era?! IF Kobe had that same level of stability he woulda retired with 8 rings a long fukkin time ago.

Your an idiot. In fact, Kobe '06 season >>> Duncan stealing J-Kidd's MVP, your man got 1 MVP just like Kobe as far as I'm concerned.