No Thread About D.L. Hughley Making Lupe His Son on BET?

[dirty_yo]

The rich ruling class run this country and the Presidents are just managers of their wealth.

The middle class has been severly weakened and the USA is one of the least unionized industiral countries on Earth. The "big bad government" myth is peddled to the poor envious white working class males that think the big bad government has given too much to women, Blacks, and immigrants. The Tea Party is bank rolled by the Koch brothers and we know where they stand in the Rich Ruling class. In fact. you can inter connect all these organizations with the international ones like the World Economic Forum, IMF, World Bank, and World Trade Organization. It boggles most of the working class how the members of the Tea Party adopt the agenda of the Rich Ruling class and conservative poor to middle income whites vote against their own interests. That’s the magic of the Rich upper class… they will use the peasant to vote against his own interest by appealing to wedge politics, like abortion, race, immigration and once they have these poor whites on their side, they cleverly include taxes, deregulations, welfare reform into that agenda. They cut taxes and go to war and then want to cut social programs yelling "debt! debt!"... The Democrats ain't better either. They talk a populist line but look at our President's policies and a lot of Dems voted for the war in Iraq

Even if blacks were unified and voted together as a significant bloc, the two party system isn't in their interests because the two parties are just different fronts for the larger interests.

Let's just go back to the debates. Our black president, claimed he introduced the toughest Wall Street/Banking regulations since the great depression, on paper yes but he never added it was intentionally riddled with holes and loopholes some 10,000 confusing pages after pages that were meant to be never practical. He claimed that by closing loopholes in the tax system some magical revenue will appear he had four years to do that if he wanted to. Finally Obama never mentioned that his job advisor was an X-CEO of General Electric one of the largest companies that exported jobs to China.

None of them had specifics, they claimed a pie in the sky if they were giving the chance to rule the US for the next 4 years, Romney constantly argued since he was a business man he knew naturally how to run a business, but government is not business and the aim and the entire idea of a government is not about profit maximization. Romney claimed by cracking up on China (the people that pay his welfare) he will create jobs, if China was forced to inflate its currency, how?? It boggles the mind since China's currency will always be lower than the US dollar. He claimed he can create jobs by making America attractive for business (typical talk, of neo-liberals) how? by further deregulations and tax cuts and pandering to big business and naturally through water down environmental and labor laws and whooping the working class and making them so desperate that they will be willing to work for a loaf of bread. But he never mentioned the fact his buddies and his class exported US jobs to China in the first place and that himself at once a CEO for a company that mainly outsourced jobs to third world countries.


Election season is a good show for the peasant and wage slaves, next month we will vote for the same old system and 10 years from now nothing will change. The wage-class will be fukked and another 2 actors will debate again and the peasant will forget as usual and we will be fooled throughout our lives and one day we will wake up old, tired, poor looking back at our lives how many times we were fooled.

QFT

 

[CapFromMCU]

It's like Jesse Ventura says...

 

[FAH1223]

this man right here gets it. that's why i was going like when i was listening to both of them talking about helping out the middle class and bringing back jobs to america.

but that STILL no an excuse NOT to vote though or to get involved in politics.

voting can help and we know that there were was a generation before us that fought for our right to vote

However, there's so many interests while the rich ruling class have strategically planted their seeds to gain major ground in the political system by buying both parties. I'm no liberal (or conservative) but The Occupy Movement could have been really powerful. It was a good idea had they used that opportunity and discontent as the Tea Party used their fake movement and won the Congress and forced most right-wingers to cater to them or else they be voted out. Reminds of Brother ALI spitting this in his new album:

"People stressing here’s the question
How they get people drinking tea in a recession
It’s deception how absurd is this
How are so many poor people conservative"

Sadly from the beginning the movement was doomed. So many interests were united but they couldn't propel the movement forward. The idea to just sit and hand out leftist/environmental/progressive literature was not enough and once they have done that for weeks they should have moved towards gaining ground politically in Washington just like the Tea Party did which occupied Washington itself. And I'm not talking about sitting in Freedom Plaza and marching between the Capitol and the White House.

The biggest problem with the movement was the anti-hierarchy anarchists that kept the movement headless. No one was in control, no president or head or groups of representatives. All Fox News had to do was to bring in high on weed hippies to dismiss the movement as a crackpot full of nut cases.

Another problem with the movement is the betrayal of the Democratic party and the labor unions. Had these joined the movement just like the Republican politicians supported the Tea Party, then the movement would have translated into a real power and would have swept the nation. Sadly the Manchurian candidate Obama kept well away from the movement as well as Nancy Pelosi and the DNC establishments. Few great men supported the movement like Noam Chomsky and Josephe Stigletz.

The saddest part is most of the Occupy Movement folks were honest decent people and they were disappointed. Next time they wont come out when the occasion demands. Thats why I am madly disappointed in Obama and just look when ever I see naive working class pandering to him. Sure, the President managed to bring some initiatives like the payroll tax credit, trying to keep taxes low for working people, healthcare reform.. I mean insurance reform, and a couple other things. But his record also shows a lot of rich pandering and we know who those folks are. But then again, just cause we have a black president who comes from humble beginnings doesn't mean anything was to change. He was just pushed as he looked to be the most competent puppet.

Everyone also talks about FDR. During the depression years that followed the working class were up in arms. Millions and millions were unionized and organized; America was almost close to a real revolution not the old fake one by the rich that occurred during the 1700s. During FDR's presidency, FDR met the American Ruling class to avert a revolution (remember in the 1930's socialism was very popular in America). FDR gave the rich a few choices; either the masses with pitch forks will raid their wealth and property or they have to accept 91% taxes and they have to pay for his massive rebuilding programs. The rich conceded, one rich man said “91% is at least better than 100% taxes". They won't tell you this in Fox News or CNN, but that’s why and how FDR did it.

Now from the 1930s till the 1970s, the average American (working white middle class) made the greatest wealth and won the greatest concessions from the Ruling Class in wages, unions, health care, low unemployment, insurance, and pensions not because the Rich gave it to them out of mercy.. No, because the working and middle classes were strong, well organized and basically ran both parties (The Democratic Party (working class party) and even the Republican Party was Center-leftist party during those years). For over 40 years, the rich ruling classes of America were losing to the tide of the working class, not only in America but also in much of Europe.

 

[OG Talk]

Damn, how long t.j holmes been with bet?! Thought he was still on cnn. I don't have bet anymore, didn't come with basic. What time that show come on?! About 10pm or 11pm est?

11 eastern mon-friday


It's a surprisingly good show (which means it will probably be canceled soon)

 

[Klyk21]

11 eastern mon-friday


It's a surprisingly good show (which means it will probably be canceled soon)

Unfortunately. I like shows like this. Hope it keeps going

 

[Black Hans]

how so? Tell me something don't just leave a baseless comment saying nothing really.

Boycotting is the greatest strength blacks have and it always worked.

The political system has failed the black community, them arabs don't vote, don't give a fukk about voting, you know why, because they do them, they to business taking care of themselves to worry about political theater. They have their own community banks, easy shyt anybody could do if you try. Instead nikkaz want to follow white folks trying to play their game, what works for them obviously don't work for us.

Soon as a nikka get some money he go live with rich white folks who don't want him around, instead of reinvesting his wealth into his own community by being a presence.

Politics ain't gonna make education better, we have. We have to invest our own dollars in ourselves, we have to build are own schools, educate or own so in the future they can educate the next generation.

Everything somebody says something thats not the status quo, people get offended, like DL, he got offended cuz Lupe had a strong stance on his belief. He insulted him instead of trying to convince him with information that he was wrong. That's why DL is dumb. He has opinion formed on a belief not information.

I agree with everything you said but the bolded. You can't give pearls to pigs.

 

[Black Hans]

Voting doesn't take any effort. U go to some place and push a button or pull a lever. It's done in like 30 seconds. I vote but I don't know why I vote nor do I really care why.

How responsible.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

So you chose a field of study in some shyt you don't even believe in?

"Smart dumb nikka problems"

Smart dumb nikka inner dialogue:
"Hmm, what college major should I choose?"...
"hmmm"...
"hmm"...
"

"
"Even though I don't believe in science, creationism all the way babeee, I should major in biology"

Nicca, we went from being slaves, to being free (kinda), to being able to own shyt, to being able to vote, to really being free, to having a President who's half black. You think that happened because white people wanted it? No, it's because throughout US history, we had black leaders, for lack of a better word, that worked within a political system that was against us, to change shyt.

We got a long way to go, still, to level the playing field, but it can and will be done.

yous a dumb nicca by default. Theres more to Poli Sci than voting.

We went from slaves to free....... WITHOUT VOTING
free to owning shyt.......... WITHOUT VOTING

and you talkin like you voted your way into this shyt... fukc outta here with your stupidity.

 

[Beegio]

yous a dumb nicca by default. Theres more to Poli Sci than voting.

We went from slaves to free....... WITHOUT VOTING
free to owning shyt.......... WITHOUT VOTING

and you talkin like you voted your way into this shyt... fukc outta here with your stupidity.

Stupid nikka, was the political process used for that shyt to happen?

Sure, black people didn't vote for those changes to take place, but white people did.

You think the emancipation proclamation wrote itself?

Use some of those critical thinking skills you got from attending Education Connection.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Stupid nikka, was the political process used for that shyt to happen?

Sure, black people didn't vote for those changes to take place, but white people did.

You think the emancipation proclamation wrote itself?

Use some of those critical thinking skills you got from attending Education Connection.

I'm not sure if youre being purposely dumb or youre not sure how or what happened, but the movement was not political. You seem to be of the moronic view that had Lincoln not been elected then slaves would never have been freed and your dumb ass would still be in mississippi pickin cash crops. No dummy freedom was inevitable regardless of who was president.

You ought to really educate yourself, you lookin extra dumb.

 

[Beegio]

I'm not sure if youre being purposely dumb or youre not sure how or what happened, but the movement was not political.

The abolition movement wasn't political? Don't worry, I address this dumb ass statement below.

You seem to be of the moronic view that had Lincoln not been elected then slaves would never have been freed

You're making up a fictitious conversation that we had. Quote where I said, or insinuated that. Better yet, fukk it, I addressed your strawman below. Executive orders, who has the power to issue one and all that.

No dummy freedom was inevitable regardless of who was president.

Sooo, Democrat Jefferson Davis woulda passed that?
Anti slavery was something bubbling in the Republican Party. Exact opposite of the Democrats at the time, who were mostly southern rich landowners, and poor southern whites.


The Underground Railroad wasn't a grassroots political movement?

Frederick Douglas, ever heard of him? He was only alive and heavily involved in the political discourse and events that led to the abolition of slavery. As a Republican. That wouldn't happen to be a political party now would it?

Let me not speak for that man though.

His words are on the record.

"I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress."
-Frederick Douglas

"A battle lost or won is easily described, understood, and appreciated, but the moral growth of a great nation requires reflection, as well as observation, to appreciate it."
-Frederick Douglas

"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe."
-Frederick Douglas

"Without a struggle, there can be no progress."
-Frederick Douglas


Harriet Tubman, who is she? Let's find out, shall we?


"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."
-Harriet Tubman


"I had reasoned this out in my mind, there was one of two things I had a right to, liberty or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other."
-Harriet Tubman


"Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world"
-Harriet Tubman

Are those quotes of political discourse? From a time BEFORE most blacks were free, could vote, could fukk PAWGS, could own land. I wonder what those words mean?

Sounds like political discourse to me.

Underground Railroad - Grassroots political movement

Abolitionists - Collective group of free blacks and whites against slavery, political, reason notwithstanding

Emancipation Proclamation - Executive Order, political, issued by President Lincoln, not Congress, ordered slaves be set free, thus causing the southern Slave States to secede from the Union, which resulted in "The Civil War".

Presidential Executive Orders, and war are of a political nature, smart dumb nikka.


Morale of he story: We have to be heavily involved in politics as a people to get our agenda pushed. Yes, our political system is corrupt and crooked, and fixed, but corruption can be overcome. The only way to do it is to use it. It's been done before, it can be done again.

I know my history, cac

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

That's your opinion and i respect it...but to discredit what DL said about Lupe by saying Bill Burr has stolen his thunder is dumb. Like DL needs a "buzz" or whatever you short attention span ass knee grows say nowadays. Anybody who knows comedy knows DL been "holding it down" damn near 20 straight summers to use your term. He's a legend. Matter fact he had a special on Showtime i think earlier THIS year. Like i said Bill Burr is hilarious, but come on man.

basically this.

who doesnt know d.l. hughley?

meanwhile, ive never even heard of bill burr or michael steele.

 

[OG Talk]

basically this.

who doesnt know d.l. hughley?

meanwhile, ive never even heard of bill burr or michael steele.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

who is he? and why should i know who he is?

 

[OG Talk]

Don't Sleep! : Sleep Talkers : Ep. 113 | Don't Sleep! Hosted by T. J. Holmes | Videos | BET


David Banner giving the president that brotherly work...





He doesn't seem to be the intellectual lightweight that Lupe is.....



Herman Cain is gonna be on tonight