No thread on Kobe scoring 4 POINTS shooting 12% with 8 turnovers? :pachaha:

[GreatestLaker]

Aight, you have a point but it doesn't even matter. LeBron isn't about the high scoring games like Kobe is.

Still great players but both impact the games in their own way.

Kobe is the most frustrating superstar I've ever watched. You look at this dude's skill level and there is really no other player that compares to him. He literally can do anything at an elite level. If he had just played smart basketball for most of his career. There wouldn't even be a debate if he was top 5 or not. People comparing Wade, Bird, Magic etc to him would've been laughed at.

 

[god shamgod]

dude said jordan was most impressive for winning without any real "big men" so i posted the bigs he played with after u quoted me saying what big men did he play with...so now when did anyone say specifically 5s? its whatever breh i think i proved my point



so i'll ask again, a power forward is not a big?

I shoulda read the exchange instead of jumping in the conversation

Jordan won with a bunch of stiffs at the 5 a mediocre pf and a 35-38 year old dennis rodman who was going awol and getting suspended every other month.Yes he did win with big men just nowhere near the same talent level as magic,kobe,zeke and bird had and MJ won more chips than all of them

 

[MostReal]

He Mad

 

[GreatestLaker]

I shoulda read the exchange instead of jumping in the conversation

Jordan won with a bunch of stiffs at the 5 a mediocre pf and a 35-38 year old dennis rodman who was going awol and getting suspended every other month.Yes he did win with big men just nowhere near the same talent level as magic,kobe,zeke and bird had and MJ won more chips than all of them

Horace Grant was mediocre?

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Kobe is the most frustrating superstar I've ever watched. You look at this dude's skill level and there is really no other player that compares to him. He literally can do anything at an elite level. If he had just played smart basketball for most of his career. There wouldn't even be a debate if he was top 5 or not. People comparing Wade, Bird, Magic etc to him would've been laughed at.

Smart basketball? The guy is a five time champion. I'd say he's played smart enough.

 

[god shamgod]

Horace Grant was mediocre?

Horace grant was serviceable a solid/ok player like taj gibson and jason thompson that's what I mean

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Horace Grant was mediocre?

That's not even the best question. I'm wondering when Bill Laimbeer, James Edwards, Rick Mahorn and John Salley became all world talent. "Something just ain't right" Keith Sweat

 

[Illuminatos]

Kobe is the most frustrating superstar I've ever watched. You look at this dude's skill level and there is really no other player that compares to him. He literally can do anything at an elite level. If he had just played smart basketball for most of his career. There wouldn't even be a debate if he was top 5 or not. People comparing Wade, Bird, Magic etc to him would've been laughed at.

Try having Carmelo on your team. You damned Lakers fans are so spoiled.

 

[holidayinn21]

Horace grant was serviceable a solid/ok player like taj gibson and jason thompson that's what I mean

so now grant was jason thompson?

 

[god shamgod]

Horace grant was serviceable it's that simple.A guy that gets 13/14 and 8/9 and made One all star game isnt anything besides that

I watched the bulls I know wtf Im talkin about.Got damn you geek nikkas over analyze everything

 

[swag2011]

Kobe is the most frustrating superstar I've ever watched. You look at this dude's skill level and there is really no other player that compares to him. He literally can do anything at an elite level. If he had just played smart basketball for most of his career. There wouldn't even be a debate if he was top 5 or not. People comparing Wade, Bird, Magic etc to him would've been laughed at.

co sign. Kobe's my favorite player but i said literally the same thing. He is just as skilled as just about anybody who has ever played the game... showed the ability to play smart basketball, pass, defend, score whatever. But it's almost a given that he's going to take 4 or 5 stupid shots a game.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Smart basketball? The guy is a five time champion. I'd say he's played smart enough.

Obviously he had a great career. Top 10 all-time, but it would've been even better if he had played the game the way Jordan did or even the way Lebron is right now. Kobe has too much Iverson in him.

 

[GreatestLaker]

co sign. Kobe's my favorite player but i said literally the same thing. He is just as skilled as just about anybody who has ever played the game... showed the ability to play smart basketball, pass, defend, score whatever. But it's almost a given that he's going to take 4 or 5 stupid shots a game.

Yup.

 

[Malik]

I never said LeBron was a better shooter than Kobe.



Again, I never said Lebron was a better shooter than Kobe. But why are you talking shyt about LeBron taking layups and dunks. THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT SHOT IN BASKETBALL!




Why is he "supposed" to be?



So I guess you're not impressed by kobe chucking his way to all those 50+ point games since the system ran through him as well.

fukk it. Jordan wasn't impressive either. He's a scrub that needed the system to be ran through him to be successful.



How is Chalmers sacrificing production when he's averaging the same amount of assists as he was before LeBron came.

Let's not even mention the fact that his Field Goal, 3 Point Percentage and Rebounds per Game average went up.


This Kobe Stan calling LeBron a ballhog.



He doesn't need to. He impacts the games in more ways than just scoring. That's why he's about to collect his 4th MVp while Kobe's stuck at 1.



The funny thing is that in his 10th season LeBron had 9 50 point games while Kobe had 15. So he's not that far off.

But let's look at an even more impressive stat. KOBE'S HAD 18 TRIPLE DOUBLES IN 16 SEASONS WHILE LEBRON HAS 43, YES 43, IN 10 SEASONS.

Lebron is a 6"9 power forward. If he's not getting rebounds, something's wrong.


Dunks/Layups are high percentage shots....its when you Bron boys argue efficiency like its the end all be all without any context, like one player isn't a jump shooter & the other isn't shooting from two feet out. Anybody can poke holes in that shyt. Bron's almost shooting a 57% clip. Jordan's highest clip was 54%. Maybe LeBron can teach Jordan a thing or two about how to shoot properly Better yet, we know Bron isn't a better shooter than Ray Allen (his career clip is 3 points lower than Bron's, 45 to 48). But whenever we have these Kobe-LeBron discussions, the first thing yall point to is Bron being a better offensive player because of his clip.



Kobe's scoring feats can't be duplicated by Bron.....if you can't see this, you're a big dummy. Only player playing that has the potential is Durant, and I'm objective enough to admit he could do it better than Kobe if he ever got that will to bust nikka's ass like that because his jumper is ungodly. So its not about biases here. Jordan could do it, Kobe could do it, I can see Durant doing it, but Bron just aint that type of player.



Actually, Mario Chalmers had 5 assists his rookie year. You neglected that part His numbers only dipped because he got less minutes, then Bron came to town. He's five years into his career now and more experienced, I could see him doing 7 assists easily kickin out to Bron & Wade, maybe more. Definitely more than his rookie season. Instead, he has to yield his job duties to the power forward



You dudes talk that ball hogging shyt about Jordan & Kobe. Lebron's no different. Jordan & Kobe picked their poison. They wanna score their 30, fukk everybody else. Magic picked his, he rather facilitate and score his little 19, 20 points. Lebron wants it all tho 27 points a game, 9 assists and controlling the ball most of the possession Thats why in Cleveland he had a bunch of teammates standing around looking lost out there. It wasnt shyt else to do



MVPs are popularity contexts. The fact that Steve Nash has two MVPs while Kobe Bryant & Hakeem Olajuwon have one actually speaks more towards the whole process than it does to them.

 

[Illuminatos]

Boy, I'm not about to read all of that shyt.