OfTheCross
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Lol... Damn... Now that the tide is turning I'm starting to feel bad for Drake
Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"
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Dude name is young marley. I can't find him on Google. He's from chicago and wrote the article
If someone can find his twitter I'll hit him up to see if he has any more information
Yall know how I roll
If someone can find his twitter I'll hit him up to see if he has any more information
Yall know how I roll
From 2013
From 2013
''I told myself I would make it from the bottom to the grammys, I hope I get to make it before the program gets fukked up completely, and I hope that last statement doesn't fukk me up before you get to see me''
Nothing Was The Same came out in September 2013
I honestly believe at least 80% if not more of everything regarding the ghostwriting allegations....and his childhood and upbringing.....I like his soft shyt....but ddue is not authentic to me, because he's not from the same place. Obviously, I didn't grow up in Marcy, but when Jay talks about 'Regrets' and 'You Must Love Me' thats ME, maybe not every bar or every situation...same with Nas, when he does 'NY State Of Mind 2', 'We Will Survive', or 'Watch Dem nikkas', thats ME....and our backgrounds, and certainly life post 18 isn't the same at all, but the emotions, the stories, the street shyt is all the same, throughout their music careers....Jay, Nas, Beanie Sigel, Cormega, AZ, Pac, Big, Styles P, Jadakiss, and thats just a few, they gave a voice to the streets, the have nots, the kids who walked home from middle school listening to their discman, or tape player, who never had even $20 for lunch, fighting on the blacktop, playing ball til your hands were covered in asphalt....who saved money to buy albums and ditched school to buy $99 cent burgers from Carls Jr, and thats all before they turned 15, then theres blunt smoke and moving work, ....Drake's not from that, and it shows....it always did.
It took me a minute to enjoy his music for what it is...He's p*ssy we all know that..and that doesn't make him unlistenable, or someone to HATE, but Drake doesn't know a fukking thing about pistols or breaking down zips in your bedroom, at 16...he's soft....and thats fine, I can love some of his tracks, but he still not authentic to me.....everyone knows this. Which is why that quote I like, Drake makes white collar guys and dudes who were nerds and lil girls their whole lives feel like they are like the ones who really came up in hip hop loving the music because it spoke to THEM, like nothing else did....Drake has the life experiences of a child star, turned superstar...
and lets not act like all the ghostwriting doesn't add up perfectly, and is cosigned up unconnected people, who have nothing to really gain by sharing what they know....You can tell it's mostly all true... I don't think Drake writes NONE of his bars, no, but he's getting more help then he wants to admit....and I fukk with OVO, it's not hate, or irrationality here. Roy Woods 'Get You Good' is my track right now....
It took me a minute to enjoy his music for what it is...He's p*ssy we all know that..and that doesn't make him unlistenable, or someone to HATE, but Drake doesn't know a fukking thing about pistols or breaking down zips in your bedroom, at 16...he's soft....and thats fine, I can love some of his tracks, but he still not authentic to me.....everyone knows this. Which is why that quote I like, Drake makes white collar guys and dudes who were nerds and lil girls their whole lives feel like they are like the ones who really came up in hip hop loving the music because it spoke to THEM, like nothing else did....Drake has the life experiences of a child star, turned superstar...
and lets not act like all the ghostwriting doesn't add up perfectly, and is cosigned up unconnected people, who have nothing to really gain by sharing what they know....You can tell it's mostly all true... I don't think Drake writes NONE of his bars, no, but he's getting more help then he wants to admit....and I fukk with OVO, it's not hate, or irrationality here. Roy Woods 'Get You Good' is my track right now....
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Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Wow....if this is true...and this was back in 2009.
I totally forgot dude had that degrassi bread for a minute. Didn't know that degrassi money paid that well. That and his mom being wealthy explains how he was able to get dudes like malice, trey songz, dwele, little brother, etc when he was an unknown from Canada. Dude wasn't even that known. Unless you really were into degrassi, you wouldn't have a clue who he was.
In fact, it even explains why that "replacement girl" track made it to BET, even though no one really new who he was back then.
As for the ghostwritting allegations (again)....
.Drake should've been checked for freestyling with the blackberry back then. Doing it on camera was blatant as fukk, complete disregard of the rules. No one in the industry called him out for it, probably for the same reason they aren't calling him out for his reference track: they want (and / or got) drake's money.
Dude and his handlers must've paid off a lot of people in the industry.
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Insensitive
Superstar
Aldousd said:
bunyanstomper said:
WallyBeezy said:
What more fukking evidence do these people need ?
Reference Tracks (which are REAL and not FAKED) ?
Public Acknowledgement of Quentin Miller by Drake's inner circle (Boi-1da,40 etc) ?
Drake him fukking self talking about "snitches" ?
Jesus christ.
The author of the article was right to mention "Cognitive dissonance".
*Quotes from below the NPR Article.
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once the noise dies down, the attention will surely turn back to that. Too bad Meek couldn't come up with a better record.
other people have said as much about Drake so where there's smoke there must be fire.If this is all true...
onelastdeath
Banned
I guess an unknown soundcloud rapper (out of thousands) getting a shoutout from an in house OVO producer is something that happens oftenNothing Was The Same came out in September 2013
Also, I guess that soundcloud rapper popping up as Drakes ghostwriter a whole 2 years later, is a coincidence. Let's call it that
You're getting shout outs from Boi 1nda in 2013 but you ain't meet Drake till 2014
You had to write "Know Yourself" for him, yet 0-100 came out a whole year ago when the line was first used
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MufasaChoppa
The Rise & Fall Of Mufasa Choppa
Lol I was just listening to Quentin and said the exact same thing. I actually pity drake. He's so desperate for approval he created an alter ego. Over compensating for being the biracial outcast loser he always felt he was. Literally had to pay someone to seem cool.
onelastdeath
Banned
Lol I was just listening to Quentin and said the exact same thing. I actually pity drake. He's so desperate for approval he created an alter ego. Over compensating for being the biracial outcast loser he always felt he was. Literally had to pay someone to seem cool.
I might fault backThe allegations shocked many, but a few people, most notably Atlanta rapper OG Maco, backed up Meek Mill’s claims, pointing out an unknown artist by the name of Quinten Miller, who’s name appears in the credits for various tracks on the rappers latest release, If Youre Reading This Its Too Late. But according to an anonymous source with close ties to the OVO clique, Drake getting a little assistance on the writing side is a regular occurrence and a known fact in Toronto music circles. The source, who we’ll refer to as Mike, has been working in the Toronto music scene for over ten years and has a long-running history with the upper-crest of the OVO brain-trust, as well as various artists affiliated with the collective, past and present.
Contrary to popular belief, while everyone is focusing on Quintin Miller, according to Mike, the main person of interest should be Hush, a close confidant of Drake who’s been name-dropped on various tracks by the rapper, most notably on his his Lil Wayne collaboration, “Miss Me” (“Neeks got the weed, Hush gotta gun”). “Hush is a rapper known here as Young Tony,” Mike reveals. “Hush is known as Hush because he’s paid Hush Money. His name is Young Tony. Drake’s “personal trainer” is a rapper by Roxx who used to be a part of JD Era’s crew. Boi 1da’s manager is a rapper by the name of Ken Masters. Everyone around him was/is a rapper. You will see the same name appear on a great deal of his songs credits. This is all known stuff.”The plot only thickens from there, as Mike alleges that Hush also lent his talents to Drizzy’s 2010 collaboration with Nicki Minaj, “Moment For Life.”
“Hush wrote Moment For Life,” Mike claims, before dropping a quite interesting tidbit and discloses that the reason for Hush’s services on the song was due to a few lines that a certain rap titan may not have taken too kindly to. “The original version contained a Drake written verse dissing Kanye.”
After pressing for additional info on this bombshell, Mike only offers vague details. “As for the moment for life thing…that happened when an artist I know popped into a session Noel (one of Drake’s engineers) invited him to. Noel played the track and Hush aka Young Tony spoke after the verse was played and said “I gotta go back in an change all of that,” referring to the lines that may have been taking as shots at Kanye. While some listeners noticed a slight change in Drake’s content after the release of Take Care, Mike says that Drake tapping from talent dates as far back as the period when he was recording his breakthrough mixtape, So Far Gone, particularly the song that made jump-started his career. “This started from ‘Best I Ever Had’…’Get it from the back until you fukking bra strap pop’ was written by Young Tony [aka Hush]. This was mentioned to my people by his ex manager T-Slack.”
Mike also brings up the screen shot Media Takeout posted in 2010 of Drake DM’ing his writer (Hush aka Young Tony) that he needs the session, further evidence that Drake’s alleged usage of ghostwriters and additional pens is nothing new.
As far as his reasons for speaking up now, he says since the avalanche of evidence could be pouring out any day, he felt the need to set the record straight for the sake of the fans that may be confused or unsure of the situation. “Everyone knows these [are] facts here. There is a revisionist history that is taking place and it isn’t right.” While many may take Mike’s claims with a grain of salt, he maintains that his words are nothing but truth and insists that Drake is by no means a complete Milli Vanilli and does have a great pen of his own. “Drake is however the best songwriter I have ever been in a room with,” Mike willingly admits, but feels his standing as an songwriter is a bit inflated giving the fact many would assume he writes his verses completely on his own.
Regardless of where fans may fall on how using a ghostwriter affects your credibility, it looks like Drake has taken a page out of Kanye West’s book and expanded his creative process to include various hands in the mix and it seems to be working wonders for his career, given the fact that’s he’s hip-hop’s brightest shining star at this moment in time. Oh yeah, and according to Mike, The 6ix that Drake is frequently running through was actually a term allegedly created by a Canadian named by the name of Jimmy Johnson. “Jimmy Johnson aka Jimmy Prime, he came up with the phrase “The 6ix”. It was to be the name of his album…Drake took it without telling him. His crew is called Prime and they are affiliated with OVO.” When asked if Jimmy Prime would confirm this claim, Mike admits he doubts he would given his status in the OVO circle would be at stake, but says that Drake’s appropriation of the term is no secret to those close to the situation.
“ Don’t think he’ll say Drake stole it but I’m pretty sure he’ll say he conceived it.”
So there you have it. Only time will tell how these allegations will affect Drake and his position as the top dog, it at all, but it looks like the Champagne Papi’s littered album credits surely won’t be on the hush moving forward.
Drake accused of having another Ghostwriter for Nicki Minaj's "Moment for Life":
Contrary to popular belief, while everyone is focusing on Quintin Miller, according to Mike, the main person of interest should be Hush, a close confidant of Drake who’s been name-dropped on various tracks by the rapper, most notably on his his Lil Wayne collaboration, “Miss Me” (“Neeks got the weed, Hush gotta gun”). “Hush is a rapper known here as Young Tony,” Mike reveals. “Hush is known as Hush because he’s paid Hush Money. His name is Young Tony. Drake’s “personal trainer” is a rapper by Roxx who used to be a part of JD Era’s crew. Boi 1da’s manager is a rapper by the name of Ken Masters. Everyone around him was/is a rapper. You will see the same name appear on a great deal of his songs credits. This is all known stuff.”The plot only thickens from there, as Mike alleges that Hush also lent his talents to Drizzy’s 2010 collaboration with Nicki Minaj, “Moment For Life.”
“Hush wrote Moment For Life,” Mike claims, before dropping a quite interesting tidbit and discloses that the reason for Hush’s services on the song was due to a few lines that a certain rap titan may not have taken too kindly to. “The original version contained a Drake written verse dissing Kanye.”
After pressing for additional info on this bombshell, Mike only offers vague details. “As for the moment for life thing…that happened when an artist I know popped into a session Noel (one of Drake’s engineers) invited him to. Noel played the track and Hush aka Young Tony spoke after the verse was played and said “I gotta go back in an change all of that,” referring to the lines that may have been taking as shots at Kanye. While some listeners noticed a slight change in Drake’s content after the release of Take Care, Mike says that Drake tapping from talent dates as far back as the period when he was recording his breakthrough mixtape, So Far Gone, particularly the song that made jump-started his career. “This started from ‘Best I Ever Had’…’Get it from the back until you fukking bra strap pop’ was written by Young Tony [aka Hush]. This was mentioned to my people by his ex manager T-Slack.”
Mike also brings up the screen shot Media Takeout posted in 2010 of Drake DM’ing his writer (Hush aka Young Tony) that he needs the session, further evidence that Drake’s alleged usage of ghostwriters and additional pens is nothing new.
As far as his reasons for speaking up now, he says since the avalanche of evidence could be pouring out any day, he felt the need to set the record straight for the sake of the fans that may be confused or unsure of the situation. “Everyone knows these [are] facts here. There is a revisionist history that is taking place and it isn’t right.” While many may take Mike’s claims with a grain of salt, he maintains that his words are nothing but truth and insists that Drake is by no means a complete Milli Vanilli and does have a great pen of his own. “Drake is however the best songwriter I have ever been in a room with,” Mike willingly admits, but feels his standing as an songwriter is a bit inflated giving the fact many would assume he writes his verses completely on his own.
Regardless of where fans may fall on how using a ghostwriter affects your credibility, it looks like Drake has taken a page out of Kanye West’s book and expanded his creative process to include various hands in the mix and it seems to be working wonders for his career, given the fact that’s he’s hip-hop’s brightest shining star at this moment in time. Oh yeah, and according to Mike, The 6ix that Drake is frequently running through was actually a term allegedly created by a Canadian named by the name of Jimmy Johnson. “Jimmy Johnson aka Jimmy Prime, he came up with the phrase “The 6ix”. It was to be the name of his album…Drake took it without telling him. His crew is called Prime and they are affiliated with OVO.” When asked if Jimmy Prime would confirm this claim, Mike admits he doubts he would given his status in the OVO circle would be at stake, but says that Drake’s appropriation of the term is no secret to those close to the situation.
“ Don’t think he’ll say Drake stole it but I’m pretty sure he’ll say he conceived it.”
So there you have it. Only time will tell how these allegations will affect Drake and his position as the top dog, it at all, but it looks like the Champagne Papi’s littered album credits surely won’t be on the hush moving forward.
Drake accused of having another Ghostwriter for Nicki Minaj's "Moment for Life":