Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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Meek fans thinking this is the W they been desperately waiting all week for. :heh:

IF NO ONE CARED ABOUT THEM REFERENCE TRACK LEAKS, THIS WON'T PROVE OR CHANGE ANYTHING.:umad:

it kinda flies in the face of the "why is it different when hip hop artists have writers, what about Beyonce" argument that people have been in here spouting.

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Yes fool. Its very possible.

Drake didn't just get popular and start having other ppl wrote for him.
You reaching. I can tell you Meek stans are desperate for a win so I'll let you believe whatever you want. These ghostwriters must really be ghost cause no one has ever heard or seen them.

Lemmie guess though, Drake paid them to stay in hiding and quiet. Prolly got a house in the woods filled with his past Ghostwriters. QM must have been the only one that was able to escape and share his story with the world.
 
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But that's from 2012. Maybe his thoughts on the matter have changed since then.
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Remember When Noah "40" Shebib Said, "In Hip-Hop, You Must Write Your Own Raps"?

In March 2012, U.K.-based music website Sound on Sound published a profile ofNoah "40" Shebib, the OVO Sound guru who has produced most of Drake's music since So Far Gone in 2009. Among several questions about 40's favored equipment and production techniques, the journalist Paul Tingen asked 40 to break down something that, three years later, would become a flashpoint of discussion within hip-hop—Drake's songwriting process.

"In hip-hop," 40 explained, "you must write your own raps. If someone else were to write them for you, you'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately."

"But when it comes to the music," 40 continued, "there's not really the same pride in writing it yourself. People don't care who wrote it, or where it comes from or what the sample is, they just want the hottest beat. They just want that and then put it out in their own song. Having said that, Drake and I do take pride in writing songs together, just the two of us."





Given Meek Mill's recent accusation that Drake employs ghostwriters—and given 40's having vehemently countered those accusations—the values and outlook that 40 shared in that 2012 profile are now more interesting than ever.

In his interview with 40, Tingen is specifically concerned with the construction of Drake's 2011 hit single "Headlines," a song produced by Boi-1da and 40 with uncredited assistance from Hush. Before the success of "Headlines" and Take Care, Drake had sold a more than a million copies of Thank Me Later. And since "Headlines," Drake has sold additional millions of records as a genre-bending hit factory that's churned out four best-selling albums and a couple dozen hit solo records, never mind his many successful guest verses. In the past three years, Drake's pop cultural appeal has expanded, and 40 has amended his respect for hip-hop accordingly.

Commercial performance aside, "Headlines" also marked the controversial ratcheting up of the sanitized, so-called soft mafioso persona that persists in Drake's latest music. "Headlines" is when Drake, now an avowed boss and body-snatcher, stressed the bounds of his previously suburban reality.

We've examined this controversy’s implications for hip-hop authenticity elsewhere. What I mean to focus on here, however, is the defensive rationalization that seems to have Noah “40” Shebib at odds with his only slightly younger self. Last week, in response to Meek Mill and the general controversy that he provoked, 40 defended Drake in the following terms, via Twitter:
i swore i would never use this meme but... there's nothing more apropos then this

 

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it kinda flies in the face of the "why is it different when hip hop artists have writers, what about Beyonce" argument that people have been in here spouting.

:francis:
these drake stans and new meek haters just keep on moving that goal post. looking like a football team during hell week. PUSHH PUSHHHH....PUSHHH.
 

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They just like him they move the goal to fit they're argument. As I stated before Drake is winning strictly because 90% of fans are more invested in Drake the character than the Rap Music, The Other 10% is because drake has made some good moves/Meek bad moves
*waits for @Napoleon @ISOMELO @Harry B @Tony_Bromo to:cape:
:umad: Check the score board
 

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:stopitslime:I guarantee you most of the folks on this forum that are against Drake in this Beef ARE NOT Meek fans.
HERE HERE> i aint a meek fan. told yall that before. he's Aight. I'm more a fan of some of drakes songs then meeks. but now that we know those are not drake's words. well i cant say i'm a fan of drake's songs. i have to say i'm a fan of
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NOPE - Drake's introduction to the world was on DeGrassi.

Word. Most degrassi fans would tell you that they heard the name "Drake" via random Degressi promos that had Aubrey in it. And most degressi fans would tell you they never imagined he'd go mainstream let alone be big as he is.

So imagine the surprise I had when I heard best I ever had for the first time on the radio. I thought he caught a break, or people acknowledged his skills, at first.

shyt is making sense now.
 
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