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Nas was a 2pac stan much more than Vice Versa

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And nobody listens to thug mansion for Nas, not to mention the dikkriding he did when he was being Ja Rule's cosplay partner doing rendition of 2pac songs. Troublesome is a much better song than If I ruled the world
I mean they squashed the beef. And he died. Im speaking about before that. He hated him but was bumping "It was Written" during the beef. That's like AK hating Kendrick but yet "Not like Us" qas his #1 most played sing that year.
 

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I mean they squashed the beef. And he died. Im speaking about before that. He hated him but was bumping "It was Written" during the beef. That's like AK hating Kendrick but yet "Not like Us" qas his #1 most played sing that year.
This is childish, you can dislike someone and still bump their music. What's the music got to do with it. :why:
 

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This topic has come up multiple times in the past. I've always maintained that while I don't think Nas necessarily lifted the concept from OK and I Gave You Power is a much better song than Stray Bullet, there is zero chance whatsoever that Nas wasn't at least familiar with them or the song on some level.

I remember cats arguing that Nas never heard the song or even knew about OK because they were too underground. I can't buy the argument that Nas was somehow unaware of a group from Queens who were working with the same producers he was working with at the time, and who also had a working relationship with MC Serch at the same time Nas did.

So 2Pac was aware enough of Organized Konfusion to the point that he even shouted them out by name on his album, but Nas wasn't?


Nas did say that but he was lying
This is from Sonicnet's interview with Nas in 97' where he said that. he later admitted he was crazy high, on some bullshyt and not
to take 99% of the interviews he did before the FEDS mag 2001 joint seriously cause he would just get high and say whatever

Nas
January 13, 1997

NAS I love being the mainstream. Everyone
else uses my style, everybody use's everybody's style.

Quif Did you get the idea for "I Gave you
Power" from OK's "Stray Bullet"?

NAS What is Stray Bullet?

iLL-FLaV A song by Organized Konfusion. Yo,
you don't know shyt about hip-hop, huh?

NAS What is Organized Konfusion? I like the
real music by people who I call survivors. Most rappers
are happy for each other, especially my crew. We only
understand survival.

iLL-FLaV Survival? Ain't you livin' in a
mansion in Long Island? What you mean survival?

Jason Survive what? Were you guys in the
war?

NAS Jason, you wouldn't survive one second
in my shoes and I'm going to be here forever.


Nas and Monch was around each other a lot back then him not hearing OK/SB is damn near impossible

 

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This is childish, you can dislike someone and still bump their music. What's the music got to do with it. :why:
How is it childish if the title of the thread is nobody hated Nas like 2 Pac? Its people who hate the person so much that they dont even wanna hear their voice or music. He didnt hate him like that and his actions show it.
 

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Exactly.

Dudes have been speaking about this for damn near 30 years. t's far from breaking news. Nas has been asked about it a million times. And Organized has been asked about it a million times, since '96.

For those who even try to say that Nas didn't know about Organized Konfusion, the same year IWW dropped, he was in Cali with them and Ras Kass and did a promo joint for the radio. Nas is a serious Hip Hop head, he was very much up on them and their music. Dude was with them and Large Professor doing promo runs that summer while they were promoting the album in Cali. Large Professor was working on Illmatic, and was literally remixing joints for Organized Konfusion's Extinction Agenda album at the same time. LOL!!



We have a lot of casuals on here. They weren't around to see any of this happen back then. They don’t know.


people act like because nas jay or eminem are superstars they didn't came in grinding first and meeting or hangin out with more underground cats. nas used to tour with kurious jorge, doin shows with peanut butter and charizma, through large pro he met akinyele, neek, royal flush, mf grimm and mic geronimo. through mc serch he met oc and doom.
same thing with eminem who met a lot of underground artists during his outsidaz/rawkus days and jay in the early jaz o pre reasonable doubt era
 
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What Beat is that?

Nas lead single from it was written to me was If I ruled the world.

I can't recognize this beat as any track off it was written.

Was it a non album single?

Edit.

Couldn't hear the bass on my phone speaker.

It was some remix of if I ruled the world.
 
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This thread turned wild :russ:

But back to the topic, that nikka PAC was a menace, would definitely wake up with rappers on his mind to write for when he hit the studio :demonic:

What Beat is that?

Nas lead single from it was written to me was If I ruled the world.

I can't recognize this beat as any track off it was written.

Was it a non album single?

Not the same beat sonically but he sampled the same song as If I Ruled The World.
 

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This thread turned wild :russ:

But back to the topic, that nikka PAC was a menace, would definitely wake up with rappers on his mind to write for when he hit the studio :demonic:



Not the same beat sonically but he sampled the same song as If I Ruled The World.


Thanks.

Couldn't hear the bass on my phone speaker.

Now heard it with earbuds.

I like Nas version better.

R.i.p Pac.
 

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I do believe Nas was inspired by Stray Bullet though, influenced by the concept & made it better concept.

Creative concepts was fairly new at the time, so it probably common that rappers were influenced by something they couldn’t think of first.

Nas was also influenced by Sugar Hill & Ho Happy Jackie when he recorded If I Ruled The World & Black Girl Lost, I don’t need Nas to come & say that he was, when you can hear the influence when you hear the songs.
 

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And Nas said he didn’t. Imma go with what Nas said out his own mouth. I’ve never seen Premo say anything like that even when he described out the song came about when he was talking about his production on it.


PAC and Outlawz literally said they got it from I Gave You Power tho. Cause PAC wanted to see if he could flip the gun concept in his own way.


Nas did it better anyway.
And the goat did it better than Nas:unimpressed:
 

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people act like because nas jay or eminem are superstars they didn't came in grinding first and meeting or hangin out with more underground cats. nas used to tour with kurious jorge, doin shows with peanut butter and charizma, through large pro he met akinyele, neek, royal flush, mf grimm and mic geronimo. through mc serch he met oc and doom.
same thing with eminem who met a lot of underground artists during his outsidaz/rawkus days and jay in the early jaz o pre reasonable doubt era
He literally went to high school with Akinyele he didnt meet him thru Large Pro. Noone said Nas wasn't around underground cats. This whole thing started cause son said Premo said Nas got influence from Stray Bullet. Noone can find Premo saying that shyt ever. Especially considering Nas has denied it. And Monch has said him and Nas have spoken to each other about it.
 

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@Westbama Heartthrob I'm glad u find shyt funny and ESPECIALLY that goofy ass nikka @2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat you a hoe ass nikka. Thing with me is I can verify damn near anything I say on this shyt. I don't often put shyt out on this site cause nikkas is weirdos but I have sent nikkas DMs proving shyt I say. And I offered that goofy lying ass nikka @Awesome Wells a chance to verify who shorty is and I think he's moving around it cause he don't know Finesse family as well as he says he does and I'm not saying she's his blood sister(she introduced herself as his sister tho) but from the way she was talking she DOES know son very well so maybe he could've given some insight on some real nikka shyt. Not some internet dap fishing shyt.
 

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He literally went to high school with Akinyele he didnt meet him thru Large Pro. Noone said Nas wasn't around underground cats. This whole thing started cause son said Premo said Nas got influence from Stray Bullet. Noone can find Premo saying that shyt ever. Especially considering Nas has denied it. And Monch has said him and Nas have spoken to each other about it.

Akinyele from lefrak and 3 years older than Nas so no they didnt met through high school

Akinyele said himself large pro introduced him to Nas which he himself met through Joe fatal

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