Noreaga: Nas wasn't on CNN War Report cause he doesn't like Tragedy

[Darts]

Listen to Live Motivator and tell me Nas didn't have Trag's entire flow and style on lock. Don't get me wrong, Nas is a far better rapper and "Nas Will Prevail" is one of the dopest tracks i've ever heard but you can't tell me Nas ain't take the entire formula for that track from Trag.

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Yeah it appears that Nas definitely got that "scientific rhyme" style from Trag but I would say both of them got it from the gawd Rakim tho (along with nearly every other rapper in the mid to late 80s)

 

[FreshAIG]

Nah your wrong, flowing is absolutely a debatable thing. That's an insane thing to say, people could have arguments about flows all day. Some people say Nas' flow ain't dope, I strongly disagree but that's what some people say. A lot of people love Mega's flow. Infact if anything isn't debatable I'd say it is that he DOES have a dope flow, I've heard Mega rap at different speeds, styles, ride beats in different styles and ways. I could find the songs and dig them up... He has a very ill flow and it works exceptionally for his style. People get shyt misinterpretated of snippets and then falsehoods become the perception, I've got loads of tracks where Mega is flowing like crazy.

No it isn't. How well someone flows on a song is not at all debatable. Flow is rhythm within the beat. This can't be debated. You have to hit on certain parts of the rhythm for you to flow properly.

And people getting in debates all day about flows doesn't make it so. It just makes it that people are debating about things that can't be debated. People do that all the time.

You can argue which flow you LIKE more, but you can't argue which flow is better froma technical perspective. Cormega's flow from a technical perspective is awful

And I bet money I've heard more Cormega songs than you.

 

[L. Deezy]

Listen to Live Motivator and tell me Nas didn't have Trag's entire flow and style on lock. Don't get me wrong, Nas is a far better rapper and "Nas Will Prevail" is one of the dopest tracks i've ever heard but you can't tell me Nas ain't take the entire formula for that track from Trag.

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ehhh, I'll give you the comparison. But Live Motivator "Trag" sounds like Shan.

I just chalk it up to a QB thing. I havent heard Marley album in so long. good up!

 

[infamousred]

Depends what you define as better, Mega's flow is a style, Mega can flow. He don't punch in all the time on every song either, he can flow continuously, but punching in is a recording technique, Slick Rick and Bizzy Bone do it a lot too but they don't have to. Ironically already had Mega on when reading this and he isn't punching in in this song at all, he does it more when he's doing the continuous multi style. It's all opinions, some people say Nas has zero charisma, which I disagree with but that's often a criticism. But technically aside for a second. The Realness, True Meaning, The Testament and Born And Raised are all very good albums not to mention the other projects that were good too. So he can make quality projects regardless, The Realness is very highly regarded, he's one awards for best albums and ish before. So a lot of people consider he makes dope music and are fans, so it's not like he can't flow where no-one checks for him. I know I check for every Mega release straight away cause I think he's an exceptional lyricist, with ILL metaphors, he's got hard street shyt but also his content can be emotional and drop knowledge or introspection in his work. I jut think he's a dope as fukk MC personally and arguably top 20. But if he must be compared to Nas as an artist I agree Nas wins but in my opinion it's due to body of work rather than skill. Though as I mentioned Nas has displayed some fantastic concepts and creativity Mega hasn't really touched on to that extent yet. Nas is one of the greatest artists of all time though in any genre so he's better than a lot of people. Am not sure about more poetic, I like the street gritty poetic style and delivery of Mega a lot, Nas is dope too, but his style is more of a great thinker and introspective, Mega has a certain rawness, authenticity and street grittiness in his poeticness that I like. Is there a lot of people who prefer Nore who heard both of their full work though? I'm not so sure about that.

the only nas album from the 2000's even competing w/ any of cormega's is the lost tapes. i've liked cormega on the mic more too since then. only thing nas has him beat in is flow.. people like to live in the past on this site. like i said before, go peep cormega's first song and you'll hear where a young nas got his influence from, besides tragedy and g rap of course.
what's that line that mega said? there wouldn't be any i-double l m-a-t-i-c without me? he wasn't just talking about nas mimicking his life for the album. everyone has had their influences from someone else. it's just that these nas stans refuse to acknowledge it like other rap fans would. i found it hilarious when nas called him wack, but yet he used one of his lines for affirmative action

 

[Poitier]

the only nas album from the 2000's even competing w/ any of cormega's is the lost tapes.

Godson is arguably better than most of Cormega's catalogue

 

[The Ruler 09]

No it isn't. How well someone flows on a song is not at all debatable. Flow is rhythm within the beat. This can't be debated. You have to hit on certain parts of the rhythm for you to flow properly.

And people getting in debates all day about flows doesn't make it so. It just makes it that people are debating about things that can't be debated. People do that all the time.

You can argue which flow you LIKE more, but you can't argue which flow is better froma technical perspective. Cormega's flow from a technical perspective is awful

And I bet money I've heard more Cormega songs than you.

Well we're debating it now so it is debatable. No again that's wrong, you don't have to hit certain parts, you can innovate or do an off beat/conversational flow, these are techniques. That's one of the issues why people lack originality cause too many people think shyt has to be the same. There isn't one way to flow, and there aren't rules, bar sounding good. shyt sounds good, he has award winning albums. I'm not arguing which flow I like more, all I'm saying is Mega has a good flow, it works for his music and he makes good music/albums.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Listen to Live Motivator and tell me Nas didn't have Trag's entire flow and style on lock. Don't get me wrong, Nas is a far better rapper and "Nas Will Prevail" is one of the dopest tracks i've ever heard but you can't tell me Nas ain't take the entire formula for that track from Trag.

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Anyone who thinks Nas wasn't influenced by Tragedy is insane.

 

[FreshAIG]

Well we're debating it now so it is debatable. No again that's wrong, you don't have to hit certain parts, you can innovate or do an off beat/conversational flow, these are techniques. That's one of the issues why people lack originality cause too many people think shyt has to be the same. There isn't one way to flow, and there aren't rules, bar sounding good. shyt sounds good, he has award winning albums. I'm not arguing which flow I like more, all I'm saying is Mega has a good flow, it works for his music and he makes good music/albums.

Well, technically you can debate anything. You can debate if 2+2 = 4. And say it's 36. But you'd be silly to do so, when you're arguing opinions against facts.

Same with flow.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

capone n noreaga still my nikkaz..even though you don't get no bigger.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Trag IMO always liked nas but at the same time he was on low key hater/salty nonsense because Nas reached a level he never did and thought that he should be where Nas is/was.

2010 @ 5:33



2012

 

[frush11]

Who's ego got the best of him?..Trag or Nas'?..cause at the time Nas was showin love to mad up n coming Queens artists especially in his area or associated...puttin nikkas on his shyt..hoppin on they shyt...he showed love to mad of them..why was Trag such a special case?..it's cause the nikka was jealous..u can tell how Trag could be by the way Nore described him...not sayin Nas was all innocent but that nikka was gettin hated on something crazy by nikkas who was gettin fed that they was the shyt all those years before he blew up...it's the main reason Mega was so stubborn and fukked himself over..it's cause he was used to bein "that nikka" in his hood..I'm pretty sure he kinda looked down on Nas as they was growin up but the world gave him a reality check..

Mega was not stubborn, he just didn't wanna get jerked by Steve Stoute.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Mega was not stubborn, he just didn't wanna get jerked by Steve Stoute.

He was stubborn...he even admitted he was wrong in retrospect.

 

[frush11]

He was stubborn...he even admitted he was wrong in retrospect.

Mega has never admitted to being wrong with the decision he made not to sign that deal with Stoute.

 

[ISO]

the only nas album from the 2000's even competing w/ any of cormega's is the lost tapes. i've liked cormega on the mic more too since then. only thing nas has him beat in is flow.. people like to live in the past on this site. like i said before, go peep cormega's first song and you'll hear where a young nas got his influence from, besides tragedy and g rap of course.
what's that line that mega said? there wouldn't be any i-double l m-a-t-i-c without me? he wasn't just talking about nas mimicking his life for the album. everyone has had their influences from someone else. it's just that these nas stans refuse to acknowledge it like other rap fans would. i found it hilarious when nas called him wack, but yet he used one of his lines for affirmative action

God's Son, Stillmatic and Life is Good too. You believe the bolded? Mega's ego can be comical.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Mega has never admitted to being wrong with the decision he made not to sign that deal with Stoute.

he say he was wrong to blame Nas because he was fresh from jail and didn't understand the industry