Not much seperates Andrew Wiggins from being the next Kwame Brown

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YEAH!

And why aren't these guys in their prime nowadays all as good as Jordan.

Doesn't make sense.

I blame the Illuminati and the Jews.

:mjlol:

Yeah I was watching the NBA when guys like DC, LJ, Shaq, Webber, Penny, Mourning, BIg Dog, Wade and them had impact as rookies and weren't on some "give me two or three years before I have impact please".

Derrick Rose was up and down that year and he played a lot more minutes

Might be a reason why he was playing more minutes, right?

Anthony Davis, Paul George, even Kobe needed a couple of years before they really broke out. And how many years were Alonzo and Iverson at Georgetown? At least 2-3 years right? Wiggins is suffering from media hype if anything

Served them well, don't you think? :yeshrug:and Wiggins is a number one pick, so supposedly he should be more ready than a Kobe or a Paul George when they were drafted. I'm not even "blaming" him, rather exécutives that draft the Anthony Bennets and the Olowokandis of the world so high

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Because they're TEENAGERS, breh. :snoop:

Only one player on your list was a teenager and that happened to be the best player since Jordan. Oh yeah, and he was a 250 pound wing. That helps.

You nikkas, mane. :smh:

I understand that, but if I want to see a teenager league I can watch the NCAA :yeshrug:
 

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2k15 already know what's up...bum ass GM stay blowing up my phone wanting to trade wiggins for kawhi and a 1st rounder...:mjlol:
 

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Yeah I was watching the NBA when guys like DC, LJ, Shaq, Webber, Penny, Mourning, BIg Dog, Wade and them had impact as rookies and weren't on some "give me two or three years before I have impact please".
You named MVPs, DPOYs and HOFs from an era where they generally stayed 2 years minimum and basically asked why every rookie (who are almost always one and done guys) doesn't have the same impact.

It was a stupid question
 

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Yeah I was watching the NBA when guys like DC, LJ, Shaq, Webber, Penny, Mourning, BIg Dog, Wade and them had impact as rookies and weren't on some "give me two or three years before I have impact please".



Might be a reason why he was playing more minutes, right?



Served them well, don't you think? :yeshrug:and Wiggins is a number one pick, so supposedly he should be more ready than a Kobe or a Paul George when they were drafted. I'm not even "blaming" him, rather exécutives that draft the Anthony Bennets and the Olowokandis of the world so high



I understand that, but if I want to see a teenager league I can watch the NCAA :yeshrug:

Not at all.

3 years from now

Zach Lavine>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wiggins

:manny:
This is based on a bunch of NOTHING. NOTHING at all.

The leash you get around here if you can dunk, man.
 

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You named MVPs, DPOYs and HOFs from an era where they generally stayed 2 years minimum and basically asked why every rookie (who are almost always one and done guys) doesn't have the same impact.

It was a stupid question

The point is that top draft pick were coming in more prepared and we didn't have to wait two or three years for them to become relevant players. And those players were not getting those recognitions in their rookie year, but were still impactful. Guys like Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, etc. So yeah if they stayed two or three years in college, well good, we saw the result on the floor. Hell it's not like there aren't other players coming in ready now, as I said guys like Rose or Lilliard

I'm not even blaming the kids, they probably think like the coli and declare early to cash in, I blame exécutives for drafting players so high based on some "potential".
 

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What you mean not at all, we're not supposed to expect more from a number one pick?
the idea that being chosen #1 doesn't necessarily mean you're NBA ready. A team like Cleveland took guys that weren't NBA ready but had the potential to be good whenever they decided to compete. Wiggins fell into that label. When Cleveland signed LeBron, nobody was realistically expecting Wiggins to set the world on fire immediately. They thought he'd be able to learn and have his role minimized. He's on a different team now, but those same expectations are the same here.

What I guess some thought was that he'd come here and average 20 out the gate because somebody had to when in reality Flip tried (and is trying) to minimize his impact so that he's not feeling like he has to shoulder the load. Ultimately he's a ridiculously talented project. It just seems odd that for a bunch of fans that feel like the Wolves can wait forever to compete can't give him 15 games, which is beyond ridiculous (yet will give LaVine 15 years, 3 stints in China, 6 D-League assignments and 20 10-day contracts to figure it out because, hey, them dunks :ohlawd:)
 

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The point is that top draft pick were coming in more prepared and we didn't have to wait two or three years for them to become relevant players. And those players were not getting those recognitions in their rookie year, but were still impactful. Guys like Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, etc. So yeah if they stayed two or three years in college, well good, we saw the result on the floor. Hell it's not like there aren't other players coming in ready now, as I said guys like Rose or Lilliard

I'm not even blaming the kids, they probably think like the coli and declare early to cash in, I blame exécutives for drafting players so high based on some "potential".


Those guys were a lot older, Allen & Robinson were 21 and 22 as rookies, generally speaking rookies 15+ years ago almost always had 2-3 years of college behind them. Also, just cause you stay a couple years doesn't mean much, Michael Carter Williams is older than Kyrie Irving, despite the fact he's played 2 less seasons, Harrison Barnes stayed 2 years at UNC and the Warriors would trade him in heartbeat for Giannis.

The success rate on these "potential" guys in the top of the draft is pretty high when you really look at it, hell the high school guys were wildly successful.
 
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