Nothing But A G Thang Had The WOAT Wordplay
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what i quoted is impressive given the timeframe it was made in, in the late 80s and early 90s. But the delievery/execution and syntax of those bars espescially that butter line make it very cringy and even dated.(nvm things like the dense rhyming that hes doing that make it more dated given how he has to twist things to make things rhyme)Yeah, NO.
First off, there is no IF, G rap was and is amazing, and wut u quoted is good. For example, ppl still use that brainstorm wordplay to this day. That’s the definition of advanced. Ironic coming from a poster named “Cadillac”
I could quote u to death with lyrics from, Common, Nas, Kane, KRS, Cube, and a ton of others during this era that are advanced. Don’t rewrite history.
now back to this thread, hilarious shyt man.
Today, Rappers who use metaphors and play on words who are really about that lyrical shyt or atleast adequate ones(like the Coles, Cyhi, Wale etc) do it in a much more advanced way or atleast by a few margins, by either extending it. entwining it with another scheme/device(mostly the elite of elite like Elzhi, Lupe, types do this). making them more intricate than what I posted with Kool G. Or they take the phrase into a different more creative angle via the wording to create a unique play on words bar, punchline, etc
like what Lupe does here, by twisting together a wheather wordplay with a Money scheme.
"I stack my paper and throw off my scents
This is top floor, better look out below
Pennies from heaven is the same as a semi from the second
And I reign(rain) supreme
Turn your umbrellas upside down
Did you even catch the change in theme"
- Lupe Fiasco Failure
this Lil Wayne one might be cringe to some of you nikkas and i might be contradicting myself in your eyes by calling out Kool Gs as corny but being cool with this. But To me i always thought this was decent bar Espescially given the context and execution .(a play on words/ punchline bar)
"All hail Weezy, call it bad weather" - Lil Wayne Blunt Blowin
Now, im not trying to put down Kool G and his ability. But im willing to bet his best that matches modern lyricists(in terms of wordplay, idioms, puns, etc) are lyrics that come/came after periods like this when he recorded Men at work(late 80s/early 90s) and prolly around late 90s and so on.
Again in terms of the multi syllablic, dense rhyming? Yeah dude was ahead of the game. But in terms of the wordplay, metaphorical, witty side? eh he's good espesically for his era. But others after him were better.
its not about rewriting history, this is just observing and pointing lyrical patterns in hip hop if you just listen to the lyrics really.
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what i quoted is impressive given the timeframe it was made in, in the late 80s and early 90s. But the delievery/execution and syntax of those bars espescially that butter line make it very cringy and even dated.(nvm things like the dense rhyming that hes doing that make it more dated given how he has to twist things to make things rhyme)
Today, Rappers who use metaphors and play on words who are really about that lyrical shyt or atleast adequate ones(like the Coles, Cyhi, Wale etc) do it in a much more advanced way or atleast by a few margins, by either extending it. entwining it with another scheme/device. making them more intricate than what I posted with Kool G. Or they take the phrase into a different more creative angle via the wording to create a unique play on words bar, punchline, etc
like what Lupe does here, by twisting together a wheather wordplay with a Money scheme.
"I stack my paper and throw off my scents
This is top floor, better look out below
Pennies from heaven is the same as a semi from the second
And I reign(rain) supreme
Turn your umbrellas upside down
Did you even catch the change in theme"
- Lupe Fiasco Failure
this Lil Wayne one might be cringe to some of you nikkas and i might be contradicting myself in your eyes by calling out Kool Gs as corny but being cool with this. But To me i always thought this was decent bar Espescially given the context and execution .(a play on words/ punchline bar)
"All hail Weezy, call it bad weather" - Lil Wayne Blunt Blowin
Now, im not trying to put down Kool G and his ability. But im willing to bet his best that matches modern lyricists(in terms of wordplay, idioms, puns, etc) are lyrics that come/came after periods like this when he recorded Men at work(late 80s/early 90s) and prolly around late 90s and so on.
Again in terms of the multi syllablic, dense rhyming? Yeah dude was ahead of the game. But in terms of the wordplay, metaphorical, witty side? eh he's good espesically for his era. But others after him were better.
its not about rewriting history, this is just observing and pointing lyrical patterns in hip hop if you just listen to the lyrics really.
and what’s so wild is embedded in that is a coming to America reference which is an example of Lupes signature layering ...
Semi from the Second (Semmi from Coming to America stayed on the second floor with Akeem ... they were Royalty and rich, hence the “reign”)
additionally Semi being a semi auto ... beatnuts had a song called “Reign of the Tec”
They are from Queens. Supreme team ran queens drug game
Y’all don’t be listening
Dense layers of devices from Lupe are amazing . Unheralded goat
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You could recite the alphabet over and over to that beat and it’d still sell a billion copies. One of the best beats ever.
Foxy Brown - "Affirmative Action"
"32 grams raw, chop it in half, get 16. / Double it times 3, we got 48, which mean a whole lot of cream. / Divide the profit by four, subtract it by eight, we back to sixteen..."
Foxy Brown must be the worst drug dealer ever. I want to buy drugs from her. The unintentional savings you can catch are probably amazing.
I swear the only part that was wrong with that lyric was that she said 48 instead of 96...you put 96 in place of 48 and it works
Or am i just retarded?
No offense but you're just retarded. If you get to 96 and you started with 32, the profit is 64, not 96. If you divide 64 by 4 and subtract 8 you get 8.
It shoulda been "32 grams raw, chop it in half, get 16, double it, times 3, we got 96. that's great! Head out the state, divide the profit by 4, take half, we back to eight! "
Now about the slippin' line...
You see, what had happened was...
With the first slip he means slipping in his car. The lowrider is a very significant symbol in the history of African American urban culture. But if the car slips, the police might pull you over, which causes you to slip metaphorically, the second slip, a slip up if you will, and then you may be sent to the penitentiary and since being in the system as a black man in America increases the chances of you not ever making it out of the system, by then you will officially be slippin' in the sense that brother DMX described so well, slippin' being the eternal state of being trapped in the condition of a young black male in the late twentieth century United States of America. So you see, don't ever let them let you slip, 'cause if you slip, then you slippin'.
You see what I'm sayin'?
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No offense but you're just retarded. If you get to 96 and you started with 32, the profit is 64, not 96. If you divide 64 by 4 and subtract 8 you get 8.
It shoulda been "32 grams raw, chop it in half, get 16, double it, times 3, we got 96. that's great! Head out the state, divide the profit by 4, take half, we back to eight! "
Now about the slippin' line...
You see, what had happened was...
With the first slip he means slipping in his car. The lowrider is a very significant symbol in the history of African American urban culture. But if the car slips, the police might pull you over, which causes you to slip metaphorically, the second slip, a slip up if you will, and then you may be sent to the penitentiary and since being in the system as a black man in America increases the chances of you not ever making it out of the system, by then you will officially be slippin' in the sense that brother DMX described so well, slippin' being the eternal state of being trapped in the condition of a young black male in the late twentieth century United States of America. So you see, don't ever let them let you slip, 'cause if you slip, then you slippin'.
You see what I'm sayin'?
yeye true story...i fucced up the profit part smfh lmao i don't even know how i missed that part
No offense but you're just retarded. If you get to 96 and you started with 32, the profit is 64, not 96. If you divide 64 by 4 and subtract 8 you get 8.
It shoulda been "32 grams raw, chop it in half, get 16, double it, times 3, we got 96. that's great! Head out the state, divide the profit by 4, take half, we back to eight! "
Now about the slippin' line...
You see, what had happened was...
With the first slip he means slipping in his car. The lowrider is a very significant symbol in the history of African American urban culture. But if the car slips, the police might pull you over, which causes you to slip metaphorically, the second slip, a slip up if you will, and then you may be sent to the penitentiary and since being in the system as a black man in America increases the chances of you not ever making it out of the system, by then you will officially be slippin' in the sense that brother DMX described so well, slippin' being the eternal state of being trapped in the condition of a young black male in the late twentieth century United States of America. So you see, don't ever let them let you slip, 'cause if you slip, then you slippin'.
You see what I'm sayin'?
thats good for 90s wordplay and lyrical tricks if you ask me
it only sounds cringey now cause we in 2021
the slippin line is trash tho, not even gonna hold you
Real question were you alive and listening to hip hop back then because I promise you no one was impressed with dres wordplay his production voice and delivery were next level though. There were plenty of rappers too that were much more advance your acting like these were raps from 82 and not 92.
I did always think it was funny once I found out Dre didn’t write that he payed someone for those rhymes.
I’m sorry but your just absurdly wrong if you think those were good lyrics at the time. I won’t bother naming the other artist at the time since you know it all but trust me no one heard his verse and thought it was the height of lyricism.Hope you did well on the paper though
