now i finally believe that dr. dre uses ghost producers

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pac spoke on it back in the day, quik mentioned it years ago, suge spoke on it a couple of years ago and now n.o.r.e. has :wow:


n.o.r.e. mentions it at the 41:30 mark:mjcry:
 
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I didn't even hear NORE talk about Dre in that interview :huh:

Snoop pretty much explained Dre's role in this old dubcnn interview:

Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.
Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them nikkas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafukka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs.

Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for nikkas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shyt to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of nikkas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nikka made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafukka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafukka and made it straight hit!

Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?
I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nikka in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nikka what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.

Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.
But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what nikkas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shyt ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shyt from ya'll! See that's what nikkas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?

Dubcnn: Right.
How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!

Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?
Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!

Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?
No, Dre produced a lot of that shyt! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafukkas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nikka Dre put all that shyt on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shyt! I'm telling you what I know man! nikkas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. nikkas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nikka, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed nikkas how to produce. Because nikkas was good at making beats, but he showed you nikkas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!

All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!
 
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I didn't even hear NORE talk about Dre in that interview :huh:

Snoop pretty much explained Dre's role in this old dubcnn interview:

some of what snoop was sayin' was true but he was also overlookin' the work i think daz did put in
i think daz did a lot more than he did get credit for. i bet he did just as much as dre did if not more but dre probably came in and mostly did the mixin'

when snoop says "no dre produced a lot of that shyt" i think he means dre took the work guys like daz had already done and just tweaked it in terms of addin' an attribute or 2 and mostly mixin' it. but i bet between both the chronic and doggystyle daz and warren were doin' the "grunt" (pause) work
 
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Then make another Dre :sas2:

he's a brand now
if he works with a set of producers for every couple of years and then switches it up again and again, for that matter any one of those producers he works with could do what he did and be on top :skip: but it would take time. but the time he has workin' with them, he gets the best material from them, continues to make a name for himself and then moves onto the next producer with the new great shyt

i ain't sayin' he don't do nothin' at all but i do think a lot of the producers he works with have probably not gotten the credit they deserve :yeshrug:
 
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People seem not to understand the difference between beat making and mixing/mastering. Daz did some beats that I think dre put his name on just for a selling point.

i agree with the part where you said daz did some beats you think dre put his name on just for a sellin' point. it makes sense
dr. dre already had a name and daz was comin' into the game, a new producer on the scene.
one (daz) who definitely learned his way around the studio thanks to dr. dre but i think he also did a lot more than what he was compensated for
i think dre supervised more than anythin', addin' his input here and there but for small corrections along with mostly mixin'
 

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i agree with the part where you said daz did some beats you think dre put his name on just for a sellin' point. it makes sense
dr. dre already had a name and daz was comin' into the game, a new producer on the scene.
one (daz) who definitely learned his way around the studio thanks to dr. dre but i think he also did a lot more than what he was compensated for
i think dre supervised more than anythin', addin' his input here and there but for small corrections along with mostly mixin'
You can always tell Dre's signature sound. Doggystyle sounded a lot different from the 3 previous albums. Some of those beats just scream daz...but as said I think it was meant as a selling point. One producer/ onenmc type shyt.
 
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You can always tell Dre's signature sound. Doggystyle sounded a lot different from the 3 previous albums. Some of those beats just scream daz...but as said I think it was meant as a selling point. One producer/ onenmc type shyt.

yeah. by 93', dr. dre already had a name. how would it look if some "no name" producer came in and was now doin' the majority of the work :mjpls:
 

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Nah man, the beat is the foundation. To not give someone credit for that is fuked up. Pac thought it was fuked up too, thats why he kept shouting out Daz on the beat on their records.

exactly.

Morons acting like the beat itself aint the most important of the overall production
 
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