now i finally believe that dr. dre uses ghost producers

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the way i see it now, i think rza is the best hip hop producer :yeshrug:

7 classic hip hop albums from 93' to 97' and he produced the majority of these muthafukkas by himself :wow:

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the strings on this muthafukka :ohlawd:
 
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oh yeah, laylaw also mentioned ghost producin' for dre too; the "california love (remix)" :skip:

link (very last paragraph on the site's page)
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...re-2pac-ghost-producing-california-love-remix


i made a thread bout it a while back but it went wood (pause)
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hold-up-laylaw-ghost-produced-california-love-remix.268099/


The Real Story Behind 2Pac & Dr. Dre's "California Love (Remix)"

“I went on and played some music for him,” began ‘Law as he recalled his reunion with Dr. Dre in the mid-‘90s. “He heard a beat that he wanted, and it was the ‘California Love (Remix)’ beat. He was officially working on The Chronic 2 way back then. And that song was supposed to have been for his album. … So Dre did the song, a couple days later Roger [Troutman] come out [and] get on it. … A couple days later, ‘Pac hear it [and] ‘Pac get on it. A couple days later now it’s ‘Pac’s single. The very next day they wanna shoot the video. So within a week of us doing it, it became ‘Pac’s single.”

“So I’m like, ‘Alright, what’chu gonna do with my version? ‘Cause we have two versions of the song,’” he continued. “[Dre] said, ‘Your version’s the remix.’ I did it with my partner at the time, [D’Maq]. … [Dr. Dre] told me that he sent the credits into Suge [Knight] and Suge fukked it up. I called Suge. Suge said, ‘Dre never gave me the credits, ‘Law.’ … Mind you, Suge ain’t really worrying about putting my name on shyt. So I get in touch with Tupac, and ‘Pac telling me he trying to leave [Death Row Records], he just wanna finish these extra albums and he wanna leave. So, we just kicked back and just let [the situation] marinate.”

Although he has endured his fair share of industry shenanigans through the years, Laylaw is still going strong in the business of music. The Westside O.G. is currently preparing the release of Lawhouse Greatest Hitz, a 3-disc box set of both previously released and unreleased ‘Law assisted creations for Ice Cube, 2Pac, DJ Quik, E-40,Nas and more.

“I’m getting a new one from Quik,” he noted of some planned new additions to the Hitz. “I’m getting a new one from Cube. And I’m gonna release some stuff that never came out, some ‘Pac that never came out. It’s gonna be interesting.”
 

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do u guys know what a producer is?

do you think rick rubin played and created the music on the metallica death magnetic album?

no

a producer oversees the project and it's direction of sound, describes what is needed and what should be omitted to bring out the exact vibe that is intended
 

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do u guys know what a producer is?

do you think rick rubin played and created the music on the metallica death magnetic album?

no

a producer oversees the project and it's direction of sound, describes what is needed and what should be omitted to bring out the exact vibe that is intended

In every other genre but hip-hop. Hip-hop is the only genre where you're supposed to "do it yourself".
 

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In every other genre but hip-hop. Hip-hop is the only genre where you're supposed to "do it yourself".
The DIY ethic is also in Punk Rock.
With that said a good proucer is what Dre is but in Hip Hop the Beatmaker and the Producer always get confused.
 
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do u guys know what a producer is?

do you think rick rubin played and created the music on the metallica death magnetic album?

no

a producer oversees the project and it's direction of sound, describes what is needed and what should be omitted to bring out the exact vibe that is intended

^This describes exactly what Khaled does on his albums. Like the Nas/Scarface joint Hip Hop for example.

 

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Dre got helpers like a lot of other producers after being in the game 10+ years.

Keep thinking Just Blaze and Kanye West beats were all made the scratch by themselves.
 

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yes, i know what a producer is but that ain't to say a lot of those guys like daz, scott storch, and mel-man didn't receive their proper credit :sas2:

Theyre in the liner notes

Dre always credits his musicians

Death row era he didnt cuz of suge

Thats one of the main reasons he bounced
 

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The DIY ethic is also in Punk Rock.
With that said a good proucer is what Dre is but in Hip Hop the Beatmaker and the Producer always get confused.

Yooooo...you know what I just thought about? Okay, in other genres of music, the producer is the one with the vision, the idea, the arrangement and composes the sound while everyone else just plays the instruments. In hip-hop, the one making the beats is usually the same person.

When you think about it, what Dre does is really taking a finished beat and tweaking it because he heard something different...or changing up something because he heard a sound that could be incorporated, that may or may not have been tweaked by the one who made the beat. When you really think about it, he should get less credit than he does.
 
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Theyre in the liner notes

Dre always credits his musicians

Death row era he didnt cuz of suge

Thats one of the main reasons he bounced

you think everybody has always gotten their proper credit? :usure:

i don't think it all falls on suge for the lack of proper credit. in that interview i posted a few post above this, laylaw (of above the law) said dr. dre told him that suge fukked the credits up but then when laylaw asked suge about why he didn't get his credit for the "california love (remix), suge told him that dre never gave him the credits :skip:


daz said in this smokebox interview with b-real he produced "rat-tat-tat-tat" yet when he look at the credits, do you see daz name anywhere for that song? :mjpls:

daz starts talkin' bout it right at the 2:56 mark


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Why would suge put their names on there?

No one will care

Produced by DR DRE is what helps sell it. Its a brand.
 
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