now i finally believe that dr. dre uses ghost producers

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I never felt like that. Ye sounds natural to me. Dre always sounds like he's rapping with the http://data:image/jpeg;base64,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SIDEBAR: Easy looks like he can see dre out the corner of his eye and he's trying notto bust out laughing in this pic. Ren looks disgusted. But they gotta be in the pic cause hee's the dude who makes the beats. Kind of like that homie you didn't fukk with when you were 15 but he had wheels so you put up with him being swagless.
that nikka Dre has that clarity in his delivery that Kanye doesn't have...Kanye's delivery is horrible half the time..and Diddy sounds like he rappin off a piece of paper..lol
 

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this made me laugh out loud :russ:
son the interviewer seemed like he was getting annoyed wit that nikka too...like..the shyt Snoop said in that interview..if I was Daz or Warren G...I woulda pressed that nikka...just cause his punk ass takes reference tracks and don't write shyt..he think he could say some shyt like that...he literally said the work they put in wasn't worth shyt...the interviewer was tryna give the nikka the benefit of the doubt too..but all Snoop really did..was expose Dre even further and expose himself as a fukkin dikkhead..
 
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that nikka Dre has that clarity in his delivery that Kanye doesn't have...Kanye's delivery is horrible half the time..and Diddy sounds like he rappin off a piece of paper..lol
lol true i was watching that doc of didddy in the studio asking his yes men y his veersesvwasnt foming off they looked like they wanted to tie their belts to the doorknob n end it i give ye a pass like 50 cuz of the car accident dre always got all that bass in his voice like hes trying to sound like what a super gangster would sound like in his mind lol
 
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son the interviewer seemed like he was getting annoyed wit that nikka too...like..the shyt Snoop said in that interview..if I was Daz or Warren G...I woulda pressed that nikka...just cause his punk ass takes reference tracks and don't write shyt..he think he could say some shyt like that...he literally said the work they put in wasn't worth shyt...the interviewer was tryna give the nikka the benefit of the doubt too..but all Snoop really did..was expose Dre even further and expose himself as a fukkin dikkhead..

damn, you right on the money with this! :russ:

but yeah, he was actin' like warren g (who had picked samples for the chronic) and daz who did produced a couple of songs on the chronic and a few on doggystyle, didn't lay the foundation. sure, dre helped to mentor daz in terms of learnin' his way around the studio and i'm sure dre tweak those songs and had an idea or concept (which is apart of bein' a producer) but that's not to say that what those guys were doin' won't producin' either. i'm sure they added ideas and such.

i remember readin' warren sayin' he picked the samples for the chronic album. so it's not like these guys like warren g or daz or even mel-man scott storch didn't have a brain and present ideas and or concepts to dr. dre (who did already have a few years of workin' in a studio on them). it's a collaborative effort and i bet none of those guys really got the credit they deserve :beli:
 

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damn, you right on the money with this! :russ:

but yeah, he was actin' like warren g (who had picked samples for the chronic) and daz who did produced a couple of songs on the chronic and a few on doggystyle, didn't lay the foundation. sure, dre helped to mentor daz in terms of learnin' his way around the studio and i'm sure dre tweak those songs and had an idea or concept (which is apart of bein' a producer) but that's not to say that what those guys were doin' won't producin' either. i'm sure they added ideas and such.

i remember readin' warren sayin' he picked the samples for the chronic album. so it's not like these guys like warren g or daz or even mel-man scott storch didn't have a brain and present ideas and or concepts to dr. dre (who did already have a few years of workin' in a studio on them). it's a collaborative effort and i bet none of those guys really got the credit they deserve :beli:
Snoop is an idiot...he said they didn't deserve credit..cause Dre tweaked they shyt..and came up with ideas...nikka..making the damn beat is an idea!....it's the fukkin biggest idea of it all...how the hell are their ideas worth less than Dre's?....like I said..Dre was a damn engineer..lol
 
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Snoop is an idiot...he said they didn't deserve credit..cause Dre tweaked they shyt..and came up with ideas...nikka..making the damn beat is an idea!....it's the fukkin biggest idea of it all...how the hell are their ideas worth less than Dre's?....like I said..Dre was a damn engineer..lol

yeah, he didn't make a good argument with that, lol
for the longest i held dr. dre as the greatest hip hop producer, then at one point i started thinkin' premier was but i think the rza is now
i'm not even sure where i would rank dr. dre at now, lol
who do you think is the greatest hip hop producer?
 

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Snoop is an idiot...he said they didn't deserve credit..cause Dre tweaked they shyt..and came up with ideas...nikka..making the damn beat is an idea!....it's the fukkin biggest idea of it all...how the hell are their ideas worth less than Dre's?....like I said..Dre was a damn engineer..lol

. . If he provided the direction and they set forth on the beat making aspects of it they are doing no more than engineering his idea
 

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. . If he provided the direction and they set forth on the beat making aspects of it they are doing no more than engineering his idea
no..Snoop said..they would "bring the beat"..and Dre would tweak it...the shyt was THEIR idea first...than Dre enhanced it...he's taking their ideas and engineering them...like I said..Snoop is an idiot...
 

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no..Snoop said..they would "bring the beat"..and Dre would tweak it...the shyt was THEIR idea first...than Dre enhanced it...he's taking their ideas and engineering them...like I said..Snoop is an idiot...

. . Alright, I'm not going to say anything bad about Snoop because he's a psychic vampire but I see what you're saying
 

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i didn't say that it did :umad:

yeah, because tryin' to call shyt for what it is and knowin' who did what and who produced what would be stupid of me :rudy:

no i think it's great to learn this behind the scenes stuff

i think they deserve credit

if feel the main problem is that liner notes should have a beatmaker credit in them

all i'm saying is don't get the definition of producer wrong

and also what i'm saying is that dre tries to credit everyone involved

the death row era credit issues was becuz of suge, not dre

if u talk to dre he'll tell u str8 up just like snoop

dre has not gotten credit also, during his early stages of tryin to get off death row, he's barely credited on the first dpg album altho he did alot more than mixing

then ghetto fabulous doesn't give him a production credit, only a rap verse feature credit

there's alot more he's given away, started, or finished, or mixed
 
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no i think it's great to learn this behind the scenes stuff

i think they deserve credit

if feel the main problem is that liner notes should have a beatmaker credit in them

all i'm saying is don't get the definition of producer wrong

and also what i'm saying is that dre tries to credit everyone involved

the death row era credit issues was becuz of suge, not dre

if u talk to dre he'll tell u str8 up just like snoop

dre has not gotten credit also, during his early stages of tryin to get off death row, he's barely credited on the first dpg album altho he did alot more than mixing

then ghetto fabulous doesn't give him a production credit, only a rap verse feature credit

there's alot more he's given away, started, or finished, or mixed

i hear you but all i'm sayin' is i think there are others who didn't get the proper credit they should have and that i think it was more of a group effort than anythin, outside of dr. dre bein' like the conductor of the whole thing. but i think others bring a lot more to the table than they are given credit for
 
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Snoop is an idiot...he said they didn't deserve credit..cause Dre tweaked they shyt..and came up with ideas...nikka..making the damn beat is an idea!....it's the fukkin biggest idea of it all...how the hell are their ideas worth less than Dre's?....like I said..Dre was a damn engineer..lol
Snoop don't wanna give people credit for bringing ideas to the table because if he did he'd have to look himself in the mirror and realize he's become Rhianna. I still wonder who the fukk wrote Doggystyle cause Snoop hasn't shown 1% of that talent on any song let alone album since. The Snoop on Doggystyle was an MC. Hardest falloff since Penny Hardaway but since the consumer base can't tell the difference he's made it to the 40 year in the game mark by becoming a chariacature.
 

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I never felt like that. Ye sounds natural to me. Dre always sounds like he's rapping with the http://data:image/jpeg;base64,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SIDEBAR: Easy looks like he can see dre out the corner of his eye and he's trying notto bust out laughing in this pic. Ren looks disgusted. But they gotta be in the pic cause hee's the dude who makes the beats. Kind of like that homie you didn't fukk with when you were 15 but he had wheels so you put up with him being swagless.
yeah that definitely sums up his rap persona. dude be trying way too hard and sound corny as hell. puffin on blunts and drankin tanquerey is s prime example.
 
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yeah that definitely sums up his rap persona. dude be trying way too hard and sound corny as hell. puffin on blunts and drankin tanquerey is s prime example.
It's like he was trying to out deep voice Lady of Rage. Typical Dre and his animosity toward females.
 
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