Now the NY has been irrelevant and dead for over twenty years can we all agree the south killed hip hop?

[Buckeye Fever]

Only place I regret I never got the chance to goto. Probably not even worth it now.

If there is a Tunnel, this era is not the time to go. Would be nothing but trash ass music

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Atlanta might be the only city that clearly has delivered more than NY in the past 20 years

I’d say Memphis too ngl

 

[Mr. Negative]

I'm sick of seeing this dumb ass take.

Blaming The South for "The Death of Hip Hop" is like blaming mcdonalds cause you're fat.

 

[gho3st]

No funny shyt I was watching juice and idk there was just a different feeling back when NYC was the mecca I can't put my finger on it but the game def been missing that soul ever since the south took it

Nope. NY killed NY hip hop. That crab in a barrel mentality killed them. They all wanna be kings and consistently undercut other ppl tryna come thru. That sht takes a toll after a while.

what did the south do? Stop looking for recognition from up north and started focusing on the south. Once the rest of the country hopped on they wave, NY was irrelevant

 

[Sbp]

Not the south's fault. New York just got corny in the early 00s. Mims, Fabolous, Papoose and Juelz were not gonna carry NYC through the next decade.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I'm sick of seeing this dumb ass take.

Blaming The South for "The Death of Hip Hop" is like blaming mcdonalds cause you're fat.

Church.

If anything, letting corporations take over the artform was the start of shyt changing. "Fun" and pro-black rap being purposely phased out. Deliberately pushing crossover shyt, which at one point was VERY frowned upon and a sin in the culture, to becoming acceptable was as well. Split shyt between commercial/underground and those trying to balance the two.

Greedy American Cacs ruin everything they touch.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Not the south's fault. New York just got corny in the early 00s. Mims, Fabolous, Papoose and Juelz were not gonna carry NYC through the next decade.

“I’m bringing NY back” ass nikkas. Nobody wanted to hear that bullshyt.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Greedy American Cacs ruin everything they touch.

Can’t sell something out without nikkas participating, willingly allowing it, and “bag chasing.”

 

[Rekkapryde]

Can’t sell something out without nikkas participating, willingly allowing it, and “bag chasing.”

100% true.

Dollar always wins in America.

 

[Yecht]

The regionalization bullshyt started when the media hyped up the East Coast/West Coast nonsense that cost us the lives of 2 Hip-Hop GOATS.


That aside, the spotlight moved around as Radio & TV channels that played rap songs/videos allowed it to and focused on whatever was popping at the time. But we all got to the point at least 10 years ago where everything became accessible. If you are listening to or watching trash rap in 2025, that's by choice and you are a goof

 

[3333broadway]

Lot of ego in here in denial of a hard truth

 

[Illuminatos]

The internet and accessibility killed it tbh. Back then you needed to have some talent/skill to get on.

Now anyone can just hook up a mic to their computer, download a beat off YouTube and possibly go viral. And with lyrics not even mattering anymore, what real skill do you need to be a rapper in 2025?

They don’t make beats. You don’t need to spend any time honing your writing ability. You don’t need singing ability since the engineer can adjust your voice with autotune.

I blame Jay-Z and Wayne as well too. They made the whole “not writing rhymes” thing popular which lead into lyrics being and afterthought. This is why the local shooter or weed carrier can just hop in the booth and become famous. These dudes aren’t really songwriters. They have no real background in music. None in poetry. They didn’t spend years refining their writing ability, so of course the quality of the music drops as a result.

 

[10bandz]

Them NY nikkas crashed out over Drake

 

[Finesse]

Drill Music and the rise of platforms like NoJumper/TraploreRoss/Wack100 etc. are actually way more damaging and main reason for the deterioration of hip hop


Atlanta actually innovated hard as hell the past decade. If anything they are the one's who kept Hip Hop fresh.

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Old ny stopped existing in 2000s

Too many transplants. Once it became safe again it got took over by outtatowners and 1st/2nd gen wannabees

See ebro snd rosenberg for examples

Nyc radio hip hop with no nyc personalities. Avg nyc head can hold a convo way better than those pos