Nvr lost a G7(10 of them), nvr missed playoffs. 11 rings 2 NCAA titles 1 Gold 5 MVPs

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That was a torture chamber.
 

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Youd be a damn fool to take russell over Hakeem da gawd:heh:

Hakeem wins all Russell's titles in his place while the rockets never win a playoff series with Russell from 93-95
 

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That was no stunt. Kindly refrain from talking about situations you don't know about. Anyone who knows what really happened that game/season wouldn't be pointing fingers at Wilt Chamberlain. The coach of that team that season OPENLY admits he told Wilt to go to hell when Wilt said he was ready to come back in the game. He only went out to rest his knee, he intended to come back in. There is literally video of coach van Breda Koff saying this, and Wilt's teammates all vouch for him that that was exactly what happened.

I could give a shyt what kind of historian you are about the game. I'll let these other cats sick your dikk. I'm not a Wilt fan and I've been bias for a very long time. He's a quitter and offensively was a black hole. I'm not saying he wasn't great. Just wasn't a fan. Elgin, Jerry, and Wilt were supposed to run things that year.
 

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Uh, his bball reference weight aka his DRAFT weight!?

So I guess we should only think of these players as these weights:

Kobe Bryant, 178lbs
Kevin Durant, 215lbs
Kevin Garnett, 217lbs
Nerlens Noel, 218lbs
Anthony Davis, 222lbs
Joakim Noah, 223lbs
Tyson Chandler, 224lbs
David Robinson, 226lbs

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You honestly think his frame was always "215"!? Try 225-240 playing weight range through the rest of his career. And this was before lifting weights became popular. For comparison, David Robinson - even by 1992, was only 235lbs, and Dwight Howard was 240 his first season and that was after he'd been lifting for a few years to prep for the NBA. Bill Russell with weights would be no smaller than any other typical size big man today if that's the body he wanted to achieve, as a young rookie he had a world class Track athletes body with a 7-4 wingspan. When he filled out, he was strong enough to tangle with Wilt - and Wilt was 300lbs.

Dwight was like 215-220 his senior year. He put on that weight for the draft.
 

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Newzz is shining a bright light on this Bill Russell stuff. Rings are a team/organizational accomplishment. Wilt >>> Bill. The numbers comparison kills it. I understand winning, but you have to look at who a player played for and with. Circumstances matter, not just the end result. The gif evidence is swaying too.....that pump fake was weak and the challenge of the shot too....The Dream woulda made him retire if that was what he was about. I can't call a player the best with those low shooting percentages....there weren't any three point shots back then to drag percentages down.

I still rock with dantheman tho....he be dropping knowledge....I like discussions like these
 
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