NWA EXPOSED

[Mac Casper]

If that was the case, then why have the crime rates being dropping since NWA and gangsta music emerged. Crime should have continued to go up with all the "negative" music that was introduced by NWA. But no, the opposite is happening.

I don't know, maybe crime has more to do with socio-economic factors by orders of magnitude than it has to do with fukking music.

I'm talking about a state of mind, not the crime rate

 

[Juney]

If that was the case, then why have the crime rates being dropping since NWA and gangsta music emerged. Crime should have continued to go up with all the "negative" music that was introduced by NWA. But no, the opposite is happening.

I don't know, maybe crime has more to do with socio-economic factors by orders of magnitude than it has to do with fukking music.

Maybe that's true. I do remember though that as gangsta rap got more popular in the early to mid 90s more and more gangs started up in the suburbs and areas that weren't even that bad. Not saying that gangsta rap was solely responsible for the spread of gangs in the 90s but it helped popularize the lifestyle, and reinforce the mentality. Movies helped too. When Colors came out it seemed like Bloods and Crips started popping off over Northern California.

Negativity of their art? That sounds stupid. Life ain't white picket fences for a lot of people dude. With all the street violence out here now and that existed way before there was an NWA, your position is illogical and narrow minded.

That goes along with rapping about your environment. But NWA and others rapped as if they were active participants in the streets, gang banging and committing crimes. Life ain't white picket fences but Dre had no problem making music like that when he was in the World Class Wreckin Crew.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Maybe that's true. I do remember though that as gangsta rap got more popular in the early to mid 90s more and more gangs started up in the suburbs and areas that weren't even that bad. Not saying that gangsta rap was solely responsible for the spread of gangs in the 90s but it helped popularize the lifestyle, and reinforce the mentality. Movies helped too. When Colors came out it seemed like Bloods and Crips started popping off over Northern California.




That goes along with rapping about your environment. But NWA and others rapped as if they were active participants in the streets, gang banging and committing crimes. Life ain't white picket fences but Dre had no problem making music like that when he was in the World Class Wreckin Crew.

I got some stories that go right along with your post.

Someone told me back in the day that when Colors dropped they started emulating it and it gave birth to some of the sets in the Dallas area. I was out in Mesquite (that was a suburb of Dallas and I didn't know they was bangin' out there) and they had this white cat who was a little bit older than us, a Crip and someone I knew had knew him and we was choppin' it up and we had that discussion. When we got to his crib his girl handed him their child and he had his set written on his baby son in a marker! Ish looked like a tattoo. I wasn't no square but when I saw that it kind of freaked me out.

Anyway, when the Bangin' on Wax cd dropped, we was already bangin' but we learned a few new things from the album artwork, the songs and the videos. Before that cats wasn't calling nobody 'slobs' and 'crabs' and we wasn't marking out b's and c's. I understand the music was suppose to help Bloods and Crips come together for the peace treaty but it also helped promote the gang culture.

The same is true with the movie scarface. Even in Paid in Full they talk about how when that movie dropped it put a battery in their back to sell dope.

 

[Juney]

I got some stories that go right along with your post.

Someone told me back in the day that when Colors dropped they started emulating it and it gave birth to some of the sets in the Dallas area. I was out in Mesquite (that was a suburb of Dallas and they didn't know they was bangin' out there) and they had this white cat who was a little bit older than us, a Crip and someone I knew had knew him and we was choppin' it up and we had that discussion. When we got to his crib his girl handed him their child and he had his set written on his baby son in a marker! Ish looked like a tattoo. I wasn't no square but when I saw that it kind of freaked me out.

Anyway, when the Bangin' on Wax cd dropped, we was already bangin' but we learned a few new things from the album artwork, the songs and the videos. Before that cats wasn't calling nobody 'slobs' and 'crabs' and we wasn't marking out b's and c's. I understand the music was suppose to help Bloods and Crips come together for the peace treaty but it also helped promote the gang culture.

The same is true with the movie scarface. Even in Paid in Full they talk about how when that movie dropped it put a battery in their back to sell dope.

The movie was a big influence with the cats I grew up with. I don't know how it was when it first came out, but when the re-release on DVD happened everyone bought that shyt and started wearing Tony Montana shirts, getting the posters. What pisses me off is that studio exec's see the influence that movies and entertainment in general have on the public and they want to go remake Scarface but this time use the cartel wars in Mexico as the background. The 83 version was supposed to be a cautionary tale but come on...when you have Tony Montana being the most charismatic character on the screen, killing his enemies who betrayed him, taking on an entire hit squad by himself, and refusing to kill children, of course impressionable people are going to take to that character.

Before the internet, movies and music was the only way you know what was going on in other regions. There's mexican gangs in the bay area that named their hoods off Lil Rob songs, and the American Me movie.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

The movie was a big influence with the cats I grew up with. I don't know how it was when it first came out, but when the re-release on DVD happened everyone bought that shyt and started wearing Tony Montana shirts, getting the posters. What pisses me off is that studio exec's see the influence that movies and entertainment in general have on the public and they want to go remake Scarface but this time use the cartel wars in Mexico as the background. The 83 version was supposed to be a cautionary tale but come on...when you have Tony Montana being the most charismatic character on the screen, killing his enemies who betrayed him, taking on an entire hit squad by himself, and refusing to kill children, of course impressionable people are going to take to that character.

Before the internet, movies and music was the only way you know what was going on in other regions. There's mexican gangs in the bay area that named their hoods off Lil Rob songs, and the American Me movie.

I didn't know how much truth there was in Scarface until the Cocaine Cowboys dvd dropped. That movie was definitely inspired by what was going on in Miami at the time. But yeah NWA, Colors, Scarface, even games like Grand Theft Auto influence the populace to put in work. These devils know it but don't care. I have long since reached the conclusion that this is what they want. It's their intention when they make it.