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NYC Mayoral Debate Is Going Viral For Bizarre Exchange
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"Why are you bozos simping for middle eastern islamic terrorists, who started a war they couldn't finish?"Hasbara Angle: This is a classic demonization tactic — painting Hamas (or any Palestinian militant group) as the initiator and a pack of incompetent aggressors. It deflects from Israel’s occupation, blockade, and overwhelming military superiority.
Guide Reference: The Hasbara Handbook encourages the use of name-calling, delegitimization, and moral framing to put the adversary on the defensive.
Response:
Look, let's not get swept away by the name-calling parade. "Middle Eastern Islamic terrorists" is a convenient scare label, but Hamas didn’t start this conflict—decades of occupation, land grabs, and state-sanctioned violence did. The question of who “started” the war is a historically selective narrative: Israel was founded in 1948 through a war that displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. “Simping” for human rights and an end to occupation is not the same as endorsing every tactic Hamas uses. This deflection is rhetorical sleight-of-hand to avoid grappling with the root cause: systemic oppression.
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"This is the real #bothsides. fukk both sides of this conflict, it's been raging for 70 years, and it's never gonna end."Hasbara Angle: This is a bothsidesism deflection. It equalizes the moral weight between Israel (a state actor with advanced military backing) and Hamas (a non-state militant group), effectively erasing the power imbalance.
Guide Reference: The Hasbara Handbook explicitly recommends equating both sides — for instance, portraying the conflict as a “cycle of violence” — to avoid scrutiny of the underlying causes like occupation and blockade.
Response:
Ah, the old "to hell with both sides" line—a rhetorical eject button that lets the speaker off the hook for thinking critically. This "bothsidesism" neutralizes any sense of moral accountability or historical context: it treats the occupier and the occupied, the heavily armed state and the blockaded enclave, as equals. It’s a lazy equivalency that comforts apathy while the bombs keep falling. If you really think it’s an endless cycle, then maybe ask: why has one side had the power to perpetuate it for 70 years while the other side fights for the right to live?
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"You fukking clowns can't even define how Hamas wins this."Hasbara Angle: Another delegitimizing tactic — framing Hamas as irrational or incompetent. It shifts the conversation away from any legitimate grievances of the Palestinian people, implying they have no strategy except violence.
Guide Reference: The Handbook suggests highlighting the futility of Palestinian resistance to undermine support for it — basically: “They can’t win, so why bother?”
Response:
Define how Hamas “wins”? That’s a convenient dodge. Hamas doesn’t need a military victory to “win” — in fact, they’ve already won in one sense by existing as a consequence of an occupation that won’t die. Every bomb that levels a home in Gaza is a recruitment poster. Every blockade, every killing of civilians fuels the narrative of resistance. The real question is: how does Israel define victory? If they think that crushing Gaza under iron and concrete will end resistance, they’ve been reading the wrong history books.
the cac mamba
Veteran
you fakkits need to accept that israel exists, and it's not going anywhere
i'll let you get back to simping for a society that beats women for the crime of leaving the house without covering their hair
the cac mamba
Veteran
i mean, here's an easy way to make you look like an idiot
when you parachuted into israel and killed a thousand people, what did you think israel was gonna do after that?
watch you stammer and not answer
Response:
Ah, the old bait-and-switch: pivot from the conflict to a broad condemnation of another society’s practices to dodge the real issue at hand. While it’s true that some societies have serious gender rights challenges, that’s not the topic we’re dealing with here. This is a rhetorical tactic that tries to change the subject from military occupation, displacement, and human rights abuses in a conflict zone to a different kind of oppression elsewhere, as if one injustice cancels out the other.
If your real concern is human rights, then let’s talk about all of them—without cherry-picking or using one to deflect from another. Let’s talk about the right to live without fear of bombs, the right to freedom of movement, the right to self-determination, and yes, also the right to gender equality—wherever it’s threatened. But don’t think that raising one problem excuses ignoring the other.
Response:i mean, here's an easy way to make you look like an idiot
when you parachuted into israel and killed a thousand people, what did you think israel was gonna do after that?
watch you stammer and not answer
Ah, the rhetorical trap: pretend the question’s aimed at “me,” as if I personally pulled the trigger. But let’s get real—no one here “parachuted into Israel” with a Kalashnikov. That’s a cartoon version of the conflict. The reality is a land under occupation, a people under blockade, decades of dispossession and siege.
Militants did carry out an attack—ugly, tragic, and undeniable. What then? Does that justify collective punishment of two million civilians, including children? Does it give a blank check to bomb refugee camps and level apartment blocks? War crimes don’t justify more war crimes.
If you’re really interested in justice, let’s talk about accountability on all sides, not just the one that’s easiest to blame.
Diunx
Probably drunk
Yep, I only support the innocent civilians that had the bad luck of being born in a Muslim shythole.
Dorian Breh
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Breh rambling about human rights like he didn’t support the genocides in Syria and Yemen
Bashar pack still hitting by the way
Bashar pack still hitting by the way
the cac mamba
Veteran
you didnt answer
coward
Imagine being forced to visit a foreign country and support their genocide
You can't read, cacyou didnt answer
the cac mamba
Veteran
sounds like your boyfriends in Hamas can't read the terms of surrenderYou can't read, cac
you lost. get over it
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