NYT Obtains Trump's Tax Returns From...1995

[StatUS]

He's running for president, yall are being contrarian for the hell of it

 

[King Kreole]

if he would release his returns i'm sure we could find evidence that he bent the tax law to the point of breaking it. whether he broke the law or not doesn't seem to be a concern of yours though. just that he's able to get away with it and hasn't been caught (yet) is good enough for you.

Maybe we could, maybe we couldn't. I highly doubt we would though, because people at his level pay a lot of money to accountants to make sure they're within the confines of the law. You seem to be desperate to charge Trump for tax evasion when there is no real evidence that he has done so. If it comes out that he has broken the law, he should be punished.

the principle is the same. these are people with significant resources playing in the margins of the law for personal benefit, to the detriment of others. if they were regular people or black they would be prosecuted and convicted.

Yeah, and what I'm saying is that if you're upset by the rich doing this, then you should be focused on closing the loopholes and sealing up the cracks (aka politicians) through which situations like this come about. Relying on people, especially businesspeople, to self-regulate is lazy and foolish. No one is going to willingly pay more taxes than legally required.

hold up...you need to rethink your comment on zimmerman here. he clearly profiled trayvon and pressed the issue which led to trayvon's death. the anger should absolutely be directed at him. and you're on some real questionable bs saying anger shouldn't be directed at him. got kap all in your avy like you about black lives matter, but your posts and support of trump be on some all lives matter. i see you trying to play both sides of the fence

I don't give a fukk about George Zimmerman. Sitting around stewing about him is foolish to me. What the fukk is it going to do to prevent situations like that happening again? I'm disgusted by the judicial system allowing him to get away with what he did, and that's where my energy will be focused. All those people still plotting on him should be spending their time promoting and voting for DAs committed to racial justice. Otherwise you're just impotently engaging in emotional masturbation.

and the anger directed at trump in this instance is warranted. his credentials to be potus are based on false pretenses. he's not a successful business man, but a conniving con man with resources. the fact that he's creating a pretzel out of the tax code to cover it up so he doesn't get exposed as a fraud doesn't mean people should be ok with it. and it's not just about trump, but also what republicans want to trickle down to the rest of the country under a trump presidency. there is a clear parallel for the all lives matter republican platform and trump's attitude of not giving a fukk as long as it makes business sense to them. him and the republicans will make lives worse for the people who already have it rough and then justify it by saying it's smart business move (for them). just like he did when discriminating against black people in his housing developments and all of the other bs he does in the name of being successful business man.

Honestly, I found the loss of almost a bil to be more of a stain on Trump than whatever low tax rate he ends up paying. It speaks to the state of financial illiteracy that people have latched onto the latter instead of the former. Paying as low a tax rate as legally possible is not evidence of fraud, it's evidence of business competence. You have every right to not be ok with that, I'm just saying you should be blaming people in the political class (Hillary Clinton) who were responsible for creating and maintaining this system, but chose to favour their elite benefactors over their constituents.

 

[Big Boss]

@Big Boss

Is it over now breh?

Yep

 

[CHL]

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

The sheer hypocrisy on display here....

Liberals really acting like they dont take every available legal deduction that they can....Like they walk into HR block and say "i wanna pay the maximum possible cos i luh my govt."

If you want to keep your $100s and $1000s why the hell wouldnt Trump want to hang on to $1000,000,000 take a seat

 

[88m3]

The Six Main Reasons Whythe Times Tax Story Could Be Devastating For Trump
By Daniel Politi

Donald Trump makes a face during the Presidential Debate at Hofstra University on September 26, 2016 in Hempstead, New York.

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The New York Times published one of those stories Saturday night that can fundamentally alter a presidential race, reporting that Donald Trump may have avoided paying federal income taxes for up to 18 years. Little wonder then that it’s being called the first October surprise of the election cycle. There are several reasons why the report could amount to a devastating blow for the Republican presidential candidate. Here are the main ones:

1. Clinton appears to have been right, Trump was trying to hide something “terrible.” During Monday’s debate, Hillary Clinton went through several reasons why Trump may be refusing to release his tax returns. Whatever the reason, she concluded, it must be really bad. “And I think probably he's not all that enthusiastic about having the rest of our country see what the real reasons are, because it must be something really important, even terrible, that he's trying to hide,” Clinton said. TheTimes story fits right into this narrative.

2. What business acumen? A big part of Trump’s narrative of why he should be president is that he’s a great businessman who has managed to make lots of money throughout the years. He has vowed to transfer those business smarts to the White House. But the tax returns revealed by the Times that shows he lost almost $1 billion in one year lends credence to those who have said Trump is not as successful as he claims to be and how his business dealings have hurt a lot of people along the way. The Clinton campaign has already seized on this a bit in its first press release after the Times story was released, saying the piece “reveals the colossal nature of Donald Trump’s past business failures.” Clinton could take this idea further and get under Trump’s skin by calling him a failed businessman at the next debate, which we all know he hates. As Slate’s Jacob Brogan wrote on Twitter: “Trump said he didn't pay taxes because he's 'smart'. It turns out he didn't pay taxes because he's one of the worst businessmen in history.”

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3. He’s just another big shot taking advantage of a system that screws the little guy. Part of Trump’s appeal has always been that he knows Washington insiders have an unfair advantage over the little guy who always ends up getting the short end of the stick. But the Times story suggests Trump is one of those bigshots who knows how to game the system for his own personal benefit. Tax experts can very well argue (as they do) that none of what Trump did was illegal but that would seem to matter little when Clinton can make the argument that a man claiming to be one of the wealthiest businessmen in the planet didn’t pay any income tax while working families struggling to make ends meet had to pay up.

4. He refused to donate money to charity. Hidden inside the Times story is a little gem about something the three pages of Trump’s 1995 tax returns showed: “Mr. Trump declined the opportunity to contribute to the New Jersey Vietnam Veterans’ Memorial Fund, the New Jersey Wildlife Conservation Fund or the Children’s Trust Fund. He also declined to contribute $1 toward public financing of New Jersey’s elections for governor.” The Times didn’t analyze the candidate’s federal tax returns it’s impossible to know how much he donated to charity that year. But his failure to donate to these charities helps Clinton make the case that Trump only watched out for himself.

5. The issue won’t be going away. Trump’s failures to release his tax returns have hung over his campaign for months. Now, attention on the issue will only intensify. And not just on how he’s the only candidate in 40 years to refuse to release his returns, but also on how he has flip-flopped on the issue. After all, during the primaries he had vowed to eventually release his returns only to back off that promise later. Trump has said he can’t release his returns because he is being audited, but everyone has called him out on that as just plainly false. Expect to hear a lot more about this in the coming weeks.

6. It comes after Trump’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week. Context is everything. Maybe Trump could have brushed off this latest bit of news if it weren’t for the fact that it comes at the end of what some are calling the worst week of any presidential campaign in recent memory. It all began with Trump’s terrible performance in the first presidential debate and then continued with him trying to justify the way he treated a former Miss Universe and a 3 a.m. tweetstorm that had a presidential candidate urging voters to check out a “sex tape.” And that’s without mentioning other potentially devastating news that came out this week, such asNewsweek’s revelation that Trump had illegal dealings with Cuba.

The Six Main Reasons Why the NY Times Tax Story Could Be Devastating For Trump

 

[JahFocus CS]

If Hillary doesn't win, all of her supporters should have to wear the WOAT tag (especially those who supported her over Sanders) because this election should be a slam dunk for the Dems.

 

[Kyoon]

How did they get a 1995 document when it's 2016?

Understand TOTAL illuminati control of mass media or... continue being brainwashed till you are slaughtered:

• Leaks ALWAYS staged, from pedoleaks to "Whistleblower: government is spying on you"

 

[AV Dicey]

if Pence fumbles on Tuesday (which he has to right , that good ol boy can't stay repeating Trump is a genius for 90 minutes)
You can bet your W-2s he getting replaced by either Rudy or Christie
Christie is currently a governor of a state and he's advocating tax avoidance that is truly ride or die shyt criminal organisations would die for ...dont ask me how

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

Its odd how Hillary doesnt mention who was in full control of the IRS and Treasury in 95 and could have changed the tax code

That needs to be a smiley.

 

[dtownreppin214]

This leak supposedly came from Trump Towers and there's more to come. Looks like we'll be good all month.

And even if this isn't illegal, this should go a long way in shattering his good businessman image. And undermining his populist, every-man message. Loses billions, stiffs contractors, small businesses and pays no federal taxes; uses his "charity" (which doesn't have the right certification) as a slush fund; indulges in pay to play; proudly brags about bribing politicians; a serial philanderer; and a rapist. Looks like Trump is literally the embodiment of the specter that surrounds Clinton... bu bu but she coughed.

where did u hear more is coming breh?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

where did u hear more is coming breh?

Just scuttlebutt from journalists over twitter.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Another Rich White Man evading Taxes but Wesley Snipes had to go to jail right? SMH. This is what we all know. These rich motherf*ckers don't pay sh!t and use write offs and loopoles to avoid paying.

 

[88m3]

Your law and order candidate ladies and gentlemen

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

So Drumpf used legal loopholes to avoid paying federal taxes for 18 years.

Ok. Cat's out of the bag. So he can release his tax returns now right?