NYT Obtains Trump's Tax Returns From...1995

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So Drumpf used legal loopholes to avoid paying federal taxes for 18 years.

Ok. Cat's out of the bag. So he can release his tax returns now right?

He's now in a catchh 22. If he wants to "Prove" the 18 years isn't true he has to release them. It's clear he uses loopholes, a lot of these rich guys do this and then complain about "Tax Rates", lol. Everyone needs to remember this when the GOP continues to push for "Tax Cuts for the Rich".
 

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one of the most puzzling things about trump is how he seems to succeed at connecting with "regular"/"blue-collar"/middle-to-lower class types. he's a wealthy dude with access and influence in government, he unapologetically uses foreign manufacturing and workers, he happily uses his means to shirk taxes in ways they could never even dream of, he stiffs "the little guy", etc. he basically is the living embodiment of everything they rally against. he's literally done everything that HE himself rallies against.

yet they eat it up all this "i'm gonna fight for you!" shyt and actually buy what he's selling. like, how the fukk can you really believe that donald j. trump, the famously self-serving, egomaniacal, blowhard is actually really running for president to fundamentally change shyt to work against himself. :mindblown:
Underneath it all, he's promising to launch the Obama family out of DC hogtied on a catapault, erase everything that Kenyan has ever done, restore law & order by getting these unemployed Black Lives Matters protesters on TV back in line, end welfare and affirmative action for the same lazy blacks, build the wall to stop the invasion of wetbacks from taking over their country and destroy free trade so they'll make things with their hands, no degree necessary, instead of letting their manufacturing jobs go overseas to those chinks ripping them off. No more "made in China" on everything they buy at Walmart.

They feel the scales have been tipped against whites and Trump will restore that Reagan balance. Restore white hope and optimism. These delusions override all else so long as he sticks with his core message: I'm going to Make America White Again. Would you care about tax returns when you believe in a wizard? This is what they mean when you see them in interviews saying "Donald Trump speaks to me."
 

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Underneath it all, he's promising to launch the Obama family out of DC hogtied on a catapault, erase everything that Kenyan has ever done, restore law & order by getting these unemployed Black Lives Matters protesters on TV back in line, end welfare and affirmative action for the same lazy blacks, build the wall to stop the invasion of wetbacks from taking over their country and destroy free trade so they'll make things with their hands, no degree necessary, instead of letting their manufacturing jobs go overseas to those chinks ripping them off. No more "made in China" on everything they buy at Walmart.

They feel the scales have been tipped against whites and Trump will restore that Reagan balance. Restore white hope and optimism. These delusions override all else so long as he sticks with his core message: I'm going to Make America White Again. Would you care about tax returns when you believe in a wizard? This is what they mean when you see them in interviews saying "Donald Trump speaks to me."
This might be the most accurate depiction of the trump campaign yet. Blatant, bigoted, white supremacy in its purest form as only the most evil and corrupt of men could could have imagined it.
 

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He's now in a catchh 22. If he wants to "Prove" the 18 years isn't true he has to release them. It's clear he uses loopholes, a lot of these rich guys do this and then complain about "Tax Rates", lol. Everyone needs to remember this when the GOP continues to push for "Tax Cuts for the Rich".

I bet there's a lot more dirt in those tax returns than just this. He's a lifelong con artist. He's had all types of shady dealings with everyone from Cuba to Russia to the Mafia.
 

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This might be the most accurate depiction of the trump campaign yet. Blatant, bigoted, white supremacy in its purest form as only the most evil and corrupt of men could could have imagined it.
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We all know there's an amount of core supporters that will always support Trump no matter what, the same is true of Hillary. The candidates are after that other slimmer group of people who can get you over 270 and that's who these leaks and negative commercials are aiming at.
 

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I bet there's a lot more dirt in those tax returns than just this. He's a lifelong con artist. He's had all types of shady dealings with everyone from Cuba to Russia to the Mafia.
And part of that lifelong con is inflating the extravagance of his wealth. According to Don, he made one of the most miraculous business turnarounds and was back on top with a net worth of $5 billion by the year 2000. He claims he had $557 million in personal income last year alone. Maybe if we get some hard numbers, we'll find that Donald was never as rich as he claimed to be over the past two decades.
 

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We all know there's an amount of core supporters that will always support Trump no matter what, the same is true of Hillary. The candidates are after that other slimmer group of people who can get you over 270 and that's who these leaks and negative commercials are aiming at.
The hardliners are entrenched to their person, the people who haven't settled probably wont like trump avoiding paying taxes for over 15 years
 

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Brehs, trump is so awful. I mean I can't with him sometimes.


This isn't illegal but god damn!
if he would release his returns i'm sure we could find evidence that he bent the tax law to the point of breaking it. whether he broke the law or not doesn't seem to be a concern of yours though. just that he's able to get away with it and hasn't been caught (yet) is good enough for you. :jbhmm:




the principle is the same. these are people with significant resources playing in the margins of the law for personal benefit, to the detriment of others. if they were regular people or black they would be prosecuted and convicted.



hold up...you need to rethink your comment on zimmerman here. he clearly profiled trayvon and pressed the issue which led to trayvon's death. the anger should absolutely be directed at him. and you're on some real questionable bs saying anger shouldn't be directed at him. got kap all in your avy like you about black lives matter, but your posts and support of trump be on some all lives matter. i see you trying to pla.y both sides of the fence :ufdup:


and the anger directed at trump in this instance is warranted. his credentials to be potus are based on false pretenses. he's not a successful business man, but a conniving con man with resources. the fact that he's creating a pretzel out of the tax code to cover it up so he doesn't get exposed as a fraud doesn't mean people should be ok with it. and it's not just about trump, but also what republicans want to trickle down to the rest of the country under a trump presidency. there is a clear parallel for the all lives matter republican platform and trump's attitude of not giving a fukk as long as it makes business sense to them. him and the republicans will make lives worse for the people who already have it rough and then justify it by saying it's smart business move (for them). just like he did when discriminating against black people in his housing developments and all of the other bs he does in the name of being successful business man.
Just to get in here, Zimmerman was over charged due to media pressure and a overzealous prosecution. If he had gotten manslaughter/third degree murder, or even a negligence causing death charge, he would have gotten at least 3 years and have been banned from owning any weapon. They could never convict on murder one because they couldn't prove intent to murder. Same reason why people don't often get life for DUI/DWI.
 
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The guy being endorsed by the American nazi party and the aryan brotherhood/nation is a far more dangerous choice domestically. These people have tripled in number of their groups since he began his campaign. The damage him and pence would do socially for everyone but old rich white men would be disastrous. Carelessness is far less dangerous than that and who openly brags about how many people he's ripped off. Think for a moment what he would do to international relations.

You want the son of a klan member in office? A guy who admits to keeping a book of hitler speeches at his bedside? A guy who repeatedly praised saddam and Kim Jong un? A guy who regularly shows a problem with free speech and praised the Chinese for their handling of the protesters in Tiananmen Square? Someone who openly says we should extort money from allied nations or invade nations with the intention of taking their resources?
His entire campaign is built on racism. There's also the fact that he's clearly an admirer of fascism and dictators. The guy refuses to back off from retweeting Mussolini quotes. He's suggested outright banning people from this country because of their religion and forcing the ones already here to list themselves on a registry. Was his admiration of the use of torture even though it's a violation of international law off putting? What about how he gleefully talked about ordering soldiers to commit war crimes or wanting to give orders to kill innocent people in hopes of forcing answers from people suspected of terror activities?

1) NATO is not working that well at this point, it seems the US does the heavy lifting. (Germany has 85 million people and a barebones army) There needs to be a reconfiguration or the US does need to do something for the people that live here.
2) He's not an aberration of the right, no matter how they try to say otherwise. His dad being klan or Ivana saying he had those speeches in a divorce affidavit, is ancillary.
3) The Vets (especially the white ones) love Donald for some reason. I have no problem believing he wouldn't have to ask them to kill brown people. We already did torture in Iraq, that bridge was crossed years ago.
4) Re: Muslims. Only 64 percent of americans believe they are loyal to the US. That is has been a 15-20 year issue now.


I believe Trump should be rejected, but only because he's not prepared. The other stuff is just noise. And even then, Hillary has not put him away.
 

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I bet there's a lot more dirt in those tax returns than just this. He's a lifelong con artist. He's had all types of shady dealings with everyone from Cuba to Russia to the Mafia.

Trump is the ultimate Huslter which is why he gets a lot of MC's shoutouts. Dude knows how to make money but he also knows how to lose it. He runs his finances like his Casino's. Claimming backrumptcy to avoid paying. I never knock the hustle but he's trying to be President. He's not releasing the returns because his business deals are obivously shady and it will show how he doesn't pay Federal Tax. I think it's much harder to avoid state tax though. But it's clear he's hiding something. The "I'm getting Audited" Excuse is weak. Hillary is a very weak canidate but her debate ether is still burning a whole week later.
 
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