NYTimes admits. Immigration at the border is a huge problem and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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Throw the book at employers too :mjgrin:
Liberals only want gonna half way though... no one wants to talk about prohibiting the use of publicly funded services/facilities.
Because having to show proof of residence to ride the city bus isn't practical
 

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Prohibit them from utilizing anything publicly funded and we can abolish ICE altogether. :ehh:

I kinda agree with you on this. If you're not an American citizen or you do not have some type of residence here acknowledged by the US government, then you can't use our public services. I don't think I have a problem with that. The public school system and healthcare(can adult illegals receive medicaid?) are probably public services that most people are talking about.

Where it becomes controversial is children. People feel that there's a moral obligation to feed, teach, and provide healthcare to children. And I agree with them. But if businesses wouldn't hire illegals and/or were subject to some type of disciplinary action for hiring illegals, then those children wouldn't be in the States long enough to even need those services. Avoiding the problem altogether.

There has to be an effort on both ends and nobody wants to take responsibility. It's why I usually avoid these threads because ain't shyt gone happen either way.

Edit: Also, we don't live in Nazi Germany. You don't need to show papers to live here. It's kind of hard to not have someone who's illegal ride the city bus. It's impossible to stop that without infringing on the freedoms of citizens.
 

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The “manufacturered” crisis is the rapists coming to take all
the jobs.

The actual crisis is millions of people in legal limbo due to a inefficient broken system.

Trump made this crisis because he desperately needs some issue to run on and has shown. There was a release valve called catch and release.
You don't have to do anything with them. He'll let them setup a trade city at the border
:gucci: What shythole forum/Chan gave you that idea?
Because having to show proof of residence to ride the city bus isn't practical

For their plan to work people who look Mexican have to sit in the back and give their seat up to any citizen who asks......
:scust:
 

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What if a considerable number of them are particularly skilled in construction and will work for practically pennies?

Wouldn't that be exploitive?

Maybe a work program where they can get visas if they are properly vetted, pay taxes, and pay for their own healthcare would be a solution. But millions of people at once is a lot no matter what.

Another problem is that most of the Central American immigrants seem to move directly into high cost of living areas like the NYC metro, DC metro, and LA metro, where housing costs are getting higher and higher, and there is no labor shortage there.
 

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While Trump has handled the crisis poorly, it was something that is bound to happen. Central America's lawlessness has continued and smugglers have been taking advantage of it and encouraging migration to the US.
 

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So long as the American way of life relies on the exploitation of resources from underdeveloped countries...we really have no right to exclude people from those countries from entering....for better or worse :manny:
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:francis: Suing isnt a policy and I dont believe the rest are new...
Are trrops even at the border?:russ: I thought that was just Trump being Trump
So you're saying that Trump has no policy to deal with illegal immigration? Sounds like terrible leadership :francis:
 

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IMO calling anyone who is in favor of stricter border control/ expanding ice a bigot/nazi is "arguing against border control".
I'm not quoting anyone cause it'll just be deflections to Trump or name calling.
You have to blind to have not seen the anyone in support of "insert stricter border policy" is a racist.

:hubie:Its not a top priority to Dems though, so ima chill and watch Trump ride it into another term.
Immigration has always = votes
Healthcare, not so much:yeshrug:
Shut the fukk up with your “agenda” talk you :mjpls: motherfukker

All you xenophobes can go back to discussing immigration policy once America stops making illegal crusades part of its foreign policy. That’s the real agenda. Go look up the Kirkpatrick Doctrine. Replacing democracies with authoritarian dictators is part of America’s stated policies, not just some conspiracy theory “agenda” that your bytch ass made up.


You’re all “so offended” at whatever immigrants are allegedly doing. But their impact on American society isn’t 1/100 the level of destruction our country has caused in theirs. You’re major hypocrites and basically want to give the US carte blanche, then tell the victims our policies to shut up and take it.
 
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Trump made this crisis because he desperately needs some issue to run on and has shown. There was a release valve called catch and release.

:gucci: What shythole forum/Chan gave you that idea?


For their plan to work people who look Mexican have to sit in the back and give their seat up to any citizen who asks......
:scust:


Even better , have them build the wall and when they are almost done have them paint the mexico side and lock them out
 

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I'm asking you... would you support prohibiting illegal immigrants from public schools? :mjgrin:
Help me understand where children who do not have an address or a US birth certificate are enrolling and going to school. :jbhmm:
 
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