NYTimes admits. Immigration at the border is a huge problem and needs to be fixed ASAP.

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The recession began under Bush. :mjpls:


Obama created more jobs than Trump. :mjpls:


neither has anything to do with the timing of immigrants coming over, which would have halted due to no jobs during the end of Bush and beginning of Obama's first 3-4 years in office. So Bush had 7years of immigration (due to a good economy) and Obama had 4 years, so of course immigration fell or wasn't as much during Obama's tenure. This has already been discussed before, so not going back and forth with something has proven to be factual. Furthermore there was no signfiicant policy change that would have lessen illegal immigration under Obama (except making illegal's legal, which skews the numbers even more)
 

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i'm talking about immigration when i say shut down the border. And if certain trade aspects are impacted so be it. It's insane Mexico allowed a caravan of people migrate from their southern border to their northern border illegally. Imagine a group of Russians migrating through Canada and entering the US (and Alaska) - it would never happen,so why is Mexico ALLOWING that? Mexico should be our first line of defense!
If you shut down the border you also shut down trade at the border. :sas1:


They weren't migrating through Mexico illegally :sas1:
 

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no you don't, yes they were.
Mexico granted them work and travel visas.

Both had traveled with the most recent migrant caravan — this one departed from Honduras last month and reached Piedras Negras on Feb. 4 — and both said they had planned to apply for asylum in the United States. But they said they were prevented from doing so by Mexican government officials who instead allowed them to apply for visas to travel and work in Mexico. Only about a dozen people a day were allowed to apply for asylum; U.S. officials said that was all they could process.

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Mexico granted them work and travel visas.



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that's two people. I can't comment on a singular case that you refused to provide a link for.

furthermore, we all have seen the news, countless of these people are traveling illegally and entering Mexico illegally, they aren't waiting to apply for proper visas. Mexico may be giving out paperwork but that is only to get them to the border of the US and pass them off.
 

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It's mind boggling that Dems are now blaming Trump after we have been escorting ILLEGAL immigrants to every single state for the last 20 years.

You can literally go to home Depot right now and pick up 20 illegals...and home depot has 2000 stores. Thats 40,000 illegals right there multiply that by 4 or 5 since tracking those 40,000 will lead you to families and that's 200,000 illegals right there

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Ha, now who's doing stupid math
 

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Deportations increased and the flow of illegal immigrants into the US decreased under Obama.

We had high under Bush.
Lower under Obama.
Highest under Trump.

Obama immigration crisis happened in 2014.
From Wikipedia,

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Smh you right lol. My issue is people acting like immigration is just at the southern border. You got people like 21 Savage overstaying their Visa's. Speak on that shyt too or shut the fukk up.

You think all these Asians and Arabs were born here?

You think Euros stumbled here on accident and didnt know what they were doing?

Be consistent. Immigration ain't just a south of the border thing bruh

Yes but only one region is at our doorstep. Are you okay with 5 million to 10 million or them coming here or nah? Are you okay with a large amount of Central and South America’s poor coming here or nah? Because that’s what’s going to happen. Maybe more. And if so, how are we paying for that?
 
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