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so we have a problem with boeing now? i fly on their planes all the time. so what you all are against is obama speaking at any corporation. this "oh it's because they are a defense contractor" is just bullshyt. that's one aspect of their business, but most people know them for their biggest division: commercial planes. if you're going to have a problem with them it's the same issue as all corporations they spend a ton of money lobbying for tax breaks and the only reason they are headquartered in chicago is because they pit another city/state against seattle in a battle to see who can give them the biggest tax breaks.
 

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Nah, you're just a cult member. :francis:

Dubya got $10 million too for his library. Same shiit, different term.

Trump has increased defense spending to $700 billion a year. Same shiit, different term.

This was prophesied by a WWII 5-Star General, Repblican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Aren't you a Tulsi cult member? Lockheed and Boeing were huge donors to her 2016 campaign. She's also in favor of drone warfare and covert ops in the same way as Obama. You guys are seriously inconsistent and that makes your self-righteousness that much more annoying.
 

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What are we supposed to be concerned about? He waived the speaking fee. They donated to his presidential library which I don’t think he derives income from. Please enlighten me if I’m wrong about that
YOU know them for planes, the govt. and investors know them for being one of America's largest defense contractors.

In 2013 they had gotten the biggest tax break in U.S. history.
But it's not only Obama, it has been such even before Obama.

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The above is just state tax, In addition to the state tax breaks, Boeing got $1.8 billion in federal income tax rebates over the last 10 years ending 2013, not sure about after that.
 

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Aren't you a Tulsi cult member? Lockheed and Boeing were huge donors to her 2016 campaign. She's also in favor of drone warfare and covert ops in the same way as Obama. You guys are seriously inconsistent and that makes your self-righteousness that much more annoying.

Maybe you missed the part where I mentioned Bush and Trump warmongering too. :patrice: ..I'm fairly certain it's still there. That,'s the difference between being a cult member and being a critically objective thinker.

Tulsi Gabbard wants to get out of Syria.
Last time I checked you had actual Democrats calling her an Assad apologist and Russian puppet because she wants peace in Syria and the Midfle East.

Is she ironically close to AIPAC, and if you say she has taken money from MIC, I don't doubt it. I have no problem with defense, I have an issue with unnecessary warmongering.

I'll give you this much though, Obama and Trump both said they were going to end the warmongering and instead boosted it right on up....so to be fair you're right, these politicians words ain't worth shiit.
 

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YOU know them for planes, the govt. and investors know them for being one of America's largest defense contractors.

In 2013 they had gotten the biggest tax break in U.S. history.
But it's not only Obama, it has been such even before Obama.

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The above is just state tax, In addition to the state tax breaks, Boeing got $1.8 billion in federal income tax rebates over the last 10 years ending 2013, not sure about after that.

I know Boeing are defense contractors, but speaking at their retreat isn’t some smoking gun for a corruption charge. It’s well after his presidency. He doesn’t have levers on military policy anymore. Also in terms of foreign policy, he may have not been a saint but he significantly deescalated both the Afghanistan and Iraq fronts.
There was conflict in Libya but that was hardly a cash cow for defense contractors. Also, how will an administration not give a tax break to the company that makes your best weapons? Isn’t the main issue how the country uses its weapons?
 

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lol people really arguing this ISNT corruption ? lmao cmon man, I know its obama but gtfoh, hes just as corrupt as any of them, run of the mill political corruption but it doesnt make it good
 

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I know Boeing are defense contractors, but speaking at their retreat isn’t some smoking gun for a corruption charge. It’s well after his presidency. He doesn’t have levers on military policy anymore. Also in terms of foreign policy, he may have not been a saint but he significantly deescalated both the Afghanistan and Iraq fronts.
There was conflict in Libya but that was hardly a cash cow for defense contractors. Also, how will an administration not give a tax break to the company that makes your best weapons? Isn’t the main issue how the country uses its weapons?
bro youre juelzing and caping, foh
 

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Aren't you a Tulsi cult member? Lockheed and Boeing were huge donors to her 2016 campaign. She's also in favor of drone warfare and covert ops in the same way as Obama. You guys are seriously inconsistent and that makes your self-righteousness that much more annoying.

Checkmate.
 

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I know Boeing are defense contractors, but speaking at their retreat isn’t some smoking gun for a corruption charge. It’s well after his presidency. He doesn’t have levers on military policy anymore. Also in terms of foreign policy, he may have not been a saint but he significantly deescalated both the Afghanistan and Iraq fronts.
There was conflict in Libya but that was hardly a cash cow for defense contractors. Also, how will an administration not give a tax break to the company that makes your best weapons? Isn’t the main issue how the country uses its weapons?
Lol.
How naive.

Have you heard the term “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours”
Or quid pro quo?


This is exactly how politicians get paid back for the dirt they did in office.

Lucrative book deals, overpriced speaking engagements and large donations to their “charities” are just the most common ways of paying back and pretending to look legit.

This isn’t exclusive to Obama by any means. But it is a very common occurrence with most politicians.
 

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Lol.
How naive.

Have you heard the term “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours”
Or quid pro quo?


This is exactly how politicians get paid back for the dirt they did in office.

Lucrative book deals, overpriced speaking engagements and large donations to their “charities” are just the most common ways of paying back and pretending to look legit.

This isn’t exclusive to Obama by any means. But it is a very common occurrence with most politicians.

Boeing is one of the top defense contractors. They make quality products, I think we can agree on that premise.

Obama administration didn’t shy away from having industry favorites even in renewable energy. Every country does this for critical industries.

The level of interfacing between industry and govt becomes problematic when they significantly influence policy against popular will or the status quo.

Two reasons I’m not alarmed is that preservation of military might will be a top priority of every American president and that involves building uavs, fighter jets and the rest. Defense contractors will always have business regardless the active military engagements. That may involve playing favorites with companies that make top quality equipment.

2nd reason is that involvement in wars post GW presidency were significantly deesclated and required less weaponry in general, which would suggest less business for defense contractors.

Its not like the pentagon builds its weapons by itself. I’m not saying there couldn’t be more to this, but this speaking isn’t a smoking gun for corruption.
 
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