Obama cautions freshman House Dems of liberal policies and their price tag

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as we know, major legislation are tweaked over time, the problem is initially getting it passed in any form
Dems had that opportunity, but chose not to deal
Since I don't have a washington post subscription, I can't read entire article, but what is being hinted as Obama's point, get something instead of nothing, makes sense if you believe that these politicians want to pass all legislation they publicly co-sign

So since I know that not to be true due to the recent no deal by Dems, Obama's message should be towards the house leaders to demand that they stop blowing smoke up the new politician's azz by entertaining their ideas because the leaders need their support for internal, self serving power move. It will help alleviate the extreme and often times nonsensical legislative goals by these politicians
 

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It seems that advice was from the standpoint of be sure you can explain to your constituency how you plan to pay for something if it is going to touch their own bottom line.

That is not unreasonable at all but naturally it isn't as sensational to get people to read the articles.

The more interesting point in his talk to the fresh meat was in "not getting trapped in phony bipartisianship" something he failed at over and over again in his presidency. I'd love for someone to ask him about all of the reaching across the isle he did and whether he would have done it differently. That is my one major problem with his entire presidency.
 

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Imagine for a second that the scientific community has just told the world in no uncertain terms there is a meteor headed to Earth that will almost certainly wipe out most, if not all, life on the planet.

One of the major political parties in the US is skeptical. They cast aspersions on the scientists, call the whole thing a hoax, repeat meteor-denying propaganda even as the enormous space rock becomes more visible in the sky, and, rather than working to try to stop the meteor from hitting Earth or making preparations to mitigate its impact, they actually implement policies that hasten its arrival and increase its eventual destruction.

The other party attracts the support of anti-meteor activists, groups, and philanthropists. When pressed, its members affirm their belief in the existence of the meteor. They defend the beleaguered, increasingly panicked scientists from attacks. They criticize the other party’s denial of the meteor’s obvious existence.

But for all their talk, they don’t reallyseem like they believe what they’re saying. They roll their eyes at anti-meteor campaigners when no one’s looking. They continue to take money from industries profiting in the short-term from the meteor’s arrival. They hardly talk about the meteor unless pressed, and they balk at implementing the kinds of radical policies needed to deal with the meteor. And they frequently team up with the other party to push through policies harmful to anti-meteor efforts.

The Democrats Are Climate Deniers
 

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Wait till the lefts AOC supporters realizes what she has cost them.
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Obama trying to steer the party down a winning path, and they are shytting on him on Twitter.
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Why can the right wing always use MMT and not the left for popular proposals?

Bernie Sanders' 2016 economic advisor Stephanie Kelton on Modern Monetary Theory and the 2020 race

Kelton: MMT starts with a really simple observation and that is that the U.S. dollar is a simple public monopoly. In other words, the United States currency comes from the United States government. It can't come from anywhere else. And therefore, it can never run out of money. It cannot face a solvency problem, bills coming due that it can't afford to pay. It never has to worry about finding the money in order to be able to spend. It doesn't need to go and raise taxes or borrow money before it is able to spend.

So what that means is that the federal government is nothing like a household. In order for households or private businesses to be able to spend, they've got to come up with the money, right? And the federal government doesn't have to behave like a household. In fact, it becomes really destructive for the economy if the government tries to behave like a household. You and I are using the U.S. dollar. States and municipalities — the state of Kansas or Detroit — they're also using the U.S. dollar. Private businesses are using the dollar. The federal government of the United States is issuing our currency, and so we have a very different relationship to the currency. That means that in order to spend, the government doesn't have to do what a household or a private business has to do: find the money. The government can simply spend the money into the economy and when it does, the rest of us end up receiving that spending as part of our income.

Malter: How much is too much? The CBO estimates that if things remain unchanged, the debt will be 152 percent of GDP in 2048. That will be the highest in the nation's history. Is that too much?

Kelton: Let's remember what the national debt is. The national debt is nothing more than a historical record of all of the dollars that the government spent into the economy and didn't tax back that are currently being held in the form of safe U.S. Treasurys. That's what the national debt is. So the question about whether the debt is too big or too small (or whether it might get too big at some point in the future) is really a question about whether that's too many safe assets for people to hold 10, 20, 50 years from now.

If you think about what happened after World War II, when the U.S. national debt went in excess of 100 percent, close to 125 percent of GDP. If we were talking about it the way we talk about it today as burdening future generations as posing a grave national security risk, we would have to scratch our heads and say, wait a minute. Do we think that our grandparents burdened the next generation with all of those bonds that were sold during World War II to win the war, build the strongest middle class, produce the longest period of peacetime prosperity, the golden age of capitalism, all of that followed in the wake of fighting World War II, increasing deficits, massively increasing the size of the national debt. And of course the next generation inherits those bonds. They don't become burdens to the next generation. They become their assets.

So it's impossible really to put a number, nobody can. How much debt is too much debt? If you look at Japan today you see a country where the debt-to-GDP ratio is something like 240 percent. Well above, orders of magnitude above, where the U.S. is today or even where the U.S. is forecast to be in the future. And so, the question is how is Japan able to sustain a debt of that size? Wouldn't it have an inflation problem? Wouldn't it lead to rising interest rates? Wouldn't this be destructive in some way? And the answer to all of those questions, as Japan has demonstrated now for years is simply: No. Japan's debt is close to 240 percent of GDP — almost a quadrillion, that's a very big number, yen. Long-term interest rates are very close to zero, there's no inflation problem. And so despite the size of the debt there are no negative consequences as a result and I think Japan teaches us a really important lesson.

Really, the only potential risk with the national debt increasing over time is inflation and to the extent that you don't believe the U.S. has a long-term inflation problem you shouldn't believe that the U.S. is facing a long-term debt problem.

Malter: Isn't it a valid concern that printing more money to pay for spending, especially when we're not in a recession, will result in inflation and destroy the spending power of regular people.

Kelton: If Congress got together and wrote a budget and decided they were going to put trillions of additional dollars into something like infrastructure investment, noting that our national infrastructure is approaching kind of Third World standards, and they said let's put several trillion dollars in and not offset any of that new spending. They just said, "Let's spend $3 trillion more into the U.S. economy." Would that be problematic? The answer is almost certainly yes, because we have an economy that has approached full employment (I don't believe we're there).

But the question is always: How much capacity does the economy have to absorb any new spending without prices beginning to rise?

So look, the Republicans passed the tax cuts and we now know that that added about $1.9 trillion to deficits over the next 10 years. There were people at the time who said, "The U.S. economy cannot take $1.9 trillion in fiscal stimulus. We're at full employment, if we do this it's going to create all kinds of problems. Interest rates will spike, inflation will accelerate, growth will slow." None of those things happened and the answer to the question why is because the economy had the capacity to absorb it.
 

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It seems that advice was from the standpoint of be sure you can explain to your constituency how you plan to pay for something if it is going to touch their own bottom line.

That is not unreasonable at all but naturally it isn't as sensational to get people to read the articles.

The more interesting point in his talk to the fresh meat was in "not getting trapped in phony bipartisianship" something he failed at over and over again in his presidency. I'd love for someone to ask him about all of the reaching across the isle he did and whether he would have done it differently. That is my one major problem with his entire presidency.
Quoted for truth
 

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This shyt is great advice.

If you notice, Bernie has NEVER done anything.

Obama has.

So its just further proof that Bernie is a major bullshytter. Everyone in congress knows it. Ask people who work in congress as aides. Sanders just gets to amp people up and can't deliver on a fraction of his shyt.

Obama put points up. Sanders is drawing up plays. :francis:
 

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This shyt is great advice.

If you notice, Bernie has NEVER done anything.

Obama has.

So its just further proof that Bernie is a major bullshytter. Everyone in congress knows it. Ask people who work in congress as aides. Sanders just gets to amp people up and can't deliver on a fraction of his shyt.

Obama put points up. Sanders is drawing up plays. :francis:
Not for long. :umad:
 
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