Obama currently holding a town hall event speaking directly to black men Juelzing about Biden.

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It isn't white people. I study slavery. The records are poorly kept. Some formerly enslaved people change their names post-emancipation. Some formerly enslaved people left the country. (i.e Liberia). Multiple waves of immigration from the Caribbean and African nations in the 20th-century. The scope is tricky. You don't want to exclude people because you cannot locate their ancestors. That is elitism.

Obama's conversation doesn't stem from whether or not ADOS are worthy. More so, How do you administer reparations without empowering other groups who aren't deserving? Most ADOS orgs are trying to understand the scope and proper-administration.

Obama's response was My Brother's Keeper (MBK). He went into areas of AA-density and give funding to grassroots orgs as well as incentivized private companies to provide jobs for Black boys/men.
See that's where the ADOS and the FBA folks get it wrong, who deserves what and how much? since we can't figure it out Then how about nothing then?

There's Black people who owned other Black people, some did it to buy there relatives from slavery some did it just to make money. The point is All Black people were effected by slavery

Name a government program that wasn't abused? There's dudes going to jail now over stimulus hustles, should we not do the stimulus because we can't vefiy that people won't try to scam it?

I say #cutthecheck Yes there will be some white people who will pull out some old Black ancestor and get a check. Yes house slaves and sellouts will get a check. Yes non ADOS and half ADOS will get checks. Yes Black people will blow it and give it right back to white people, yes Black people especially rich ones will have their taxes raised to pay for the checks they recieve and yes no matter what the payout a massive distribution of that money will cause inflation which will make the money worth less than it would if it was given out based on production.

But all of that is white supremacy babble designed on not paying reparations. Pay it or don't pay it but all the bullshyt talking points don't apply when other people got their checks so it shouldn't apply to us.
 

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This

Most 80's babies are 5 generations removed from slavery.

Most of our Great-Grandparents were born around 1900-1910.

I was born in 1986 and knew 2 of my Great-Grandparents.

One born in 1907 and the other born in 1909.


My Greatgrandfather was born in 1890 and died in 1978. His wife would I remember died in the mid 80's Both of them probably knew several people who were enslaved. You can check tax records and stud books (we were considered cattle) and DNA to determine who is who. If you wanted you can literally determine who owned who and make them pay the people they owned. For example some of the land near where FED EX Field is was owned until very recently by a family that got rich off of slavery. It would be easy to trace the people they owned and use the procedes of the sale of that land to pay off the enslaved folks ancestors.

If you were that concerned about them blowing the money you could set up a trust for them and make money off the money owed and use that to pay off the money slowly. And I didn't do a study to figure that out

#cutthecheck.
 

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Waka already said "he isn't Black and Black people can't catch the Corona" smart dumb nikka contrarian babble.
 
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The Dems aren't going to chase our votes...we can get mad all we want to but that's the truth.

Every vote they lose from us can get made up with increasing numbers of Latinos, Asians and educated ww...plus having a 90%+ lock on sistas.

Republicans don't want us to vote but they aren't actively courting our vote besides saying "those Dems ain't doing shyt for you."

Leveraging your vote only works when both sides need your vote. GOP doesn't need it because their platform is predicated on NOT appealing to us. Gen Z is moving left and is more diverse than Millenials or Gen X.

We should fight for progress but also understand that playing both sides against each other is like punching air.

What we NEED is a split in either the Dems (establishment vs. progressives) or Republicans (moderate vs. tea party populists). The splits would have everyone scrambling for votes.

Unfortunately as long as the GOP holds itself together, the establishment Dems will block progressives because a split Dem party is an automatic GOP win.

Also gotta remember that so-called progressives are not particularly enthusiastic about pushing pro-black anything. However, they may be our best shot since they are so desperate to take control of the Democratic Party....if there's a path....that's where it'll be.
 

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The Dems aren't going to chase our votes...we can get mad all we want to but that's the truth.

Every vote they lose from us can get made up with increasing numbers of Latinos, Asians and educated ww...plus having a 90%+ lock on sistas.

Republicans don't want us to vote but they aren't actively courting our vote besides saying "those Dems ain't doing shyt for you."

Leveraging your vote only works when both sides need your vote. GOP doesn't need it because their platform is predicated on NOT appealing to us. Gen Z is moving left and is more diverse than Millenials or Gen X.

We should fight for progress but also understand that playing both sides against each other is like punching air.

What we NEED is a split in either the Dems (establishment vs. progressives) or Republicans (moderate vs. tea party populists). The splits would have everyone scrambling for votes.

Unfortunately as long as the GOP holds itself together, the establishment Dems will block progressives because a split Dem party is an automatic GOP win.

Also gotta remember that so-called progressives are not particularly enthusiastic about pushing pro-black anything. However, they may be our best shot since they are so desperate to take control of the Democratic Party....if there's a path....that's where it'll be.
Man shut the fukk up
 

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BREHS TAKE NOTE: THEY HAVE A PLAN

Trump is trying to terraform US society right under your feet.

Trump has changed the courts for a generation.

Trump wants to rid the USA of affirmative action.

Trump is trying to change the education system to reduce the forces against right-wing politics in future generations.

Trump is trying to change immigration to "mejorar la raza" and bring in people more likely to be right-wing / anti non-whites.

Here Trump uses a WS dog-whistle about survival of the West

In Trump's own words:





"The conspiracy theory was developed by the neo-Nazi David Lane in his White Genocide Manifesto (c. 1995, origin of the later use of the term),[67][68][69][65] where he made the claim that the government policies of many Western countries had the intent of destroying white European culture and making white people an "extinct species"
White genocide conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

These Trumpists are not breh Trumpists.

These are white agitators who believe they are in a battle for "survival" and that Trump (and his movement) are their political savior :ufdup: .

Their jobs.. their lives revolve around this "battle" and they spam online non-stop to this end.


There's no need for Affirmative Action..
Schools need to be changed
 

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Ok explain to me how Trump has brought America to its knees to the point that it can't recover. You're making it seem like there has never been a point where America has been in worse shape.
Tbh I don’t get that shyt.

Right before Obama got elected Oscar Grant was murdered in Oakland and the Jena 6 was huge news. Police killings and brutality been happening since forever the difference now is social media. We was in an actual recession with the stock market, auto market, and housing market crash. Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme was huge. We was at war in Iraq and feeling the effects of 9/11. Mass Islamaphobia. Katrina destroyed New Orleans one of America’s blackest cities. The Mexican border was a huge talking point then. Bush was an idiot people laughed at. I didn’t even think Obama would live through his term I thought he would end up like JFK.

shyt been fukked up what Obama inherited was a damn mess.

Y’all forgot this shyt was only 12-15 years ago.
 
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Tbh I don’t get that shyt.

Right before Obama got elected Oscar Grant was murdered in Oakland and the Jena 6 was huge news. Police killings and brutality been happening since forever the difference now is social media. We was in an actual recession with the stock market, auto market, and housing market crash. Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme was huge. We was at war in Iraq and feeling the effects of 9/11. Mass Islamaphobia. Katrina destroyed New Orleans one of America’s blackest cities. The Mexican border was a huge talking point then. Bush was an idiot people laughed at. I didn’t even think Obama would live through his term.

shyt been fukked up what Obama inherited was a damn mess.

Y’all forgot this shyt was only 12-15 years ago.
The Great Recession happend GW Bush's watch. That's the only reason why Obama got 8n there

My issue is just like the recession wasn't (totally) Bush's fault neighter is corona (totally) Trump's fault but if he's reelected people will give him a pass that no other leader got.

How the fukk do you keep your job if over 200K people died????

Trump nuthuggers explain to me why he of all people deserves a pass?
 

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Tbh I don’t get that shyt.

Right before Obama got elected Oscar Grant was murdered in Oakland and the Jena 6 was huge news. Police killings and brutality been happening since forever the difference now is social media. We was in an actual recession with the stock market, auto market, and housing market crash. Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme was huge. We was at war in Iraq and feeling the effects of 9/11. Mass Islamaphobia. Katrina destroyed New Orleans one of America’s blackest cities. The Mexican border was a huge talking point then. Bush was an idiot people laughed at. I didn’t even think Obama would live through his term I thought he would end up like JFK.

shyt been fukked up what Obama inherited was a damn mess.

Y’all forgot this shyt was only 12-15 years ago.

Exactly. Someone else said it very clearly...this shift from New Deal era with a vibrant middle class to what is effectively a rich and poor type landscape has been in play for decades and was accelerated by St. Reagan with his massive tax cut for the rich. We are feeling the impacts of decades of legislation but people wanna act like Trump did all this.
  • Trump created poverty
  • Trump created racism
  • Trump created police brutality
  • Trump created covid
This liberal boogeyman shyt is disingenuous and manipulative. Trump is a freaking dumbass and an ignoramus but people are using him as a means to sanitize history. Like shyt was peachy under Obama and Trump is this huge shift in consciousness. Trump IS AMERICA. He is what America looks like when you step outside of the megalopolis’.
 

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Exactly. Someone else said it very clearly...this shift from New Deal era with a vibrant middle class to what is effectively a rich and poor type landscape has been in play for decades and was accelerated by St. Reagan with his massive tax cut for the rich. We are feeling the impacts of decades of legislation but people wanna act like Trump did all this.
  • Trump created poverty
  • Trump created racism
  • Trump created police brutality
  • Trump created covid
This liberal boogeyman shyt is disingenuous and manipulative. Trump is a freaking dumbass and an ignoramus but people are using him as a means to sanitize history. Like shyt was peachy under Obama and Trump is this huge shift in consciousness. Trump IS AMERICA. He is what America looks like when you step outside of the megalopolis’.
That’s 100
 

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Trump IS AMERICA. He is what America looks like when you step outside of the megalopolis’.
I was in Europe during the lead up to 2016. Soon as ppl found out we were American, they started talking politics. When i told them trump was definitely gonna win, they were incredulous. :mjlol:


I told them in these exact words, with this exact face: ":usure: You don't know these crackers like i know these crackers." Then i had to explain what a cracker was. :skip:
 
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