Obama on the breakfast club ct tha god ask him why he didnt do more for black folk

[Ish Gibor]

I'm genuinely curious about this thought process. Hypothetically, if a policy has a positive impact on all people but has a disproportionately positive impact on Black Americans, would you still be frustrated that it wasn't targeted only at Black Americans?
In your view, did the voting rights act or affirmative action "specifically benefit" Black Americans?

Black people are at the bottom of affirmative actions since the earliest days, though it was Black people who suffered and died for it. It was Black people who historically was gerrymandered.


How-a-widespread-practice-to-politically-empower-african-americans-might-actually-harm-them

Race-Based Political Exclusion And Social Subjugation: Racial Gerrymandering As A Badge Of Slavery

White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

There is only one group of people in American history who systemically socioeconomically have been deprived. And that group happens to be Black people (not immigrants in general, nor Black immigrants).

 

[Ish Gibor]

Because unless we’re willing to start a full-fledged revolution, the only way we can get things done is by having white people sign off on it.

People may not like that statement but tell me where’s the lie?

I propose this question:

What the do with a people who are highly morbid and sadistic, who have a deep love for seeing others suffer, in particularly Black people.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Smh this thread title is such BS... You should've had it as

"Obama explains what he did for black people on Breakfast Club"

The Coli still trying to stick to this narrative that he didn't do anything.


Cliff notes for people:

- Said he was confident he did a lot for black people cuz he has the statistics to prove it (peep my sig). Prison records dropped, juvenile records dropped, changed sentencing to more reasonable accounts, crime rates dropped, black poverty dropped to it's lowest level. Black businesses and black income rose to it's highest. Black unemployment reached it's lowest. And these numbers rose higher than with any other race.

-Republicans and State Governors blocked him from doing all that he wanted to do with Obamacare. Some governors wouldn't accept funding/medicaid dollars even though it wouldn't cost them a dime cuz they simply just wanted to oppose him.

- He doesn't break the laws like Trump does in order to get things done and knows the constitution and the consequences of said actions.

- Didn't go around advertising everything he did like Trump does cuz he didn't want to make others feel like they weren't getting anything.

- Says there's no way to change in 8 years what's been broken for 200 years.

- Says the presidency is like a relay race and unless the following President's stick to the same policies that are working, it's always gonna be a back and forth in regards to progress.

315 daps, I feel God like

 

[BiggWebb79]

Damn Obama didn't do shyt for us

Key Accomplishments

Labor Market, Income and Poverty

• The unemployment rate for African Americans peaked at 16.8 percent in March 2010, after experiencing a larger percentage-point increase from its pre-recession average to its peak than the overall unemployment rate did. Since then, the African-American unemployment rate has seen a larger percentage-point decline in the recovery, falling much faster than the overall unemployment rate over the last year.
  
  
• The real median income of black households increased by 4.1 percent between 2014 and 2015.
  
  
• The President enacted permanent expansions of the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit, which together now provide about 2 million African-American working families with an average tax cut of about $1,000 each.
  
  
• A recent report from the Census Bureau shows the remarkable progress that American families have made as the recovery continues to strengthen. Real median household income grew 5.2 percent from 2014 to 2015, the fastest annual growth on record. Income grew for households across the income distribution, with the fastest growth among lower- and middle-income households. The number of people in poverty fell by 3.5 million, leading the poverty rate to fall from 14.8 percent to 13.5 percent, the largest one-year drop since 1968, with even larger improvements including for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and children.
  
  
• The poverty rate for African Americans fell faster in 2015 than in any year since 1999. While the poverty rate fell for across all racial and ethnic groups this year, it fell 2.1 percentage points (p.p.) for African Americans, resulting in 700,000 fewer African Americans in poverty.
  
  
• African American children also made large gains in 2015, with the poverty rate falling 4.2 percentage points and 400,000 fewer children in poverty.
  

Health

• Since the start of Affordable Care Act's first open enrollment period at the end of 2013, the uninsured rate among non-elderly African Americans has declined by more than half. Over that period, about 3 million uninsured nonelderly, African-American adults gained health coverage.
  
  
• Teen pregnancy among African-American women is at an historic low. The birth rate per 1,000 African-American teen females has fallen from 60.4 in 2008, before President Obama entered office, to 34.9 in 2014.
  
  
• Life expectancy at birth is the highest it’s ever been for African Americans. In 2014, life expectancy at birth was 72.5 years for African-American males and 78.4 for African-American females, the highest point in the historical series for both genders.
  

Education

• The high school graduation rate for African-American students is at its highest point in history. In the 2013-2014 academic year, 72.5 percent of African-American public high school students graduated within four years.
  
  
• Since the President took office, over one million more black and Hispanic students enrolled in college.
  
  
• Among African-Americans and Hispanic students 25 and older, high school completion is higher than ever before. Among African Americans, Hispanics, and Asian students 25 and older, Bachelor’s degree attainment is higher than ever before. As of 2015, 88 percent of the African-American population 25 and older had at least a high school degree and 23percent had at least a Bachelor’s degree.
  

Support for HBCUs

• The U.S. Department of Education (ED) is responsible for funding more than $4 billion for HBCUs each year.
  
  
• Pell Grant funding for HBCU students increased significantly between 2007 and 2014, growing from $523 million to $824 million.
  
  
• The President’s FY 2017 budget request proposes a new, $30 million competitive grant program, called the HBCU and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) Innovation for Completion Fund, designed to support innovative and evidence-based, student-centered strategies and interventions to increase the number of low-income students completing degree programs at HBCUs and MSIs.
  
  
• The First in the World (FITW) program provided unique opportunities for HBCUs to compete for grants focused on innovation to drive student success.
  
  
• In 2014, Hampton University received a grant award of $3.5 million.
  
  
• In FY 2015, three FITW awards were made to HBCUs, including Jackson State University ($2.9 million), Delaware State University ($2.6 million) and Spelman College ($2.7 million).
  
  
• While Congress did not fund the program in fiscal year 2016, the President’s 2017 budget request includes $100 million for the First in the World program, with up to $30 million set aside for HBCUs and MSIs.
  

Criminal Justice

• The incarceration rates for African-American men and women fell during each year of the Obama Administration and are at their lowest points in over two decades. The imprisonment rates for African-American men and women were at their lowest points since the early 1990s and late 1980s, respectively, of 2014, the latest year for which Bureau of Justice Statistics data are available.
  
  
• The number of juveniles in secure detention has been reduced dramatically over the last decade. The number of juveniles committed or detained, a disproportionate number of whom are African American, fell more than 30% between 2007 and 2013.
  
  
• The President has ordered the Justice Department to ban the use of solitary confinement for juveniles held in federal custody. There are presently no more juveniles being held in restrictive housing federally.
  

My Brother’s Keeper

• President Obama launched the My Brother’s Keeper initiative on February 27, 2014 to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by boys and young men of color and ensure that all young people can reach their full potential.
  
  
• Nearly 250 communities in all 50 states, 19 Tribal Nations, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico have accepted the President’s My Brother’s Keeper Community Challenge to dedicate resources and execute their own strategic plans to ensure all young people can reach their full potential.
  
  
• Inspired by the President’s call to action, philanthropic and other private organizations have committed to provide more than $600 million in grants and in-kind resources and $1 billion in low-interest financing to expand opportunity for young people – more than tripling the initial private sector investment since 2014.
  
  
• In May 2014, the MBK Task Force gave President Obama nearly 80 recommendations to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by young people, including boys and young men of color. Agencies have been working individually and collectively since to respond to recommendations with federal policy initiatives, grant programs, and guidance. Today, more than 80% of MBK Task Force Recommendations are complete or on track.
  

Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color

• In 2014, the Council on Women and Girls (CWG) launched a specific work stream called “Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color” to ensure that policies and programs across the federal government appropriately take into account the unique obstacles that women and girls of color can face. In fall 2015, CWG released a report that identified five data-driven issue areas where interventions can promote opportunities for success at school, work, and in the community.
  
  
• This work has also inspired independent commitments to advance equity, including a $100 million, 5-year-funding initiative by Prosperity Together—a coalition of women’s foundations—to improve economic prosperity for low-income women and women and girls of color and a $75 million funding commitment by the Collaborative to Advance Equity through Research—an affiliation of American colleges, universities, research organizations, publishers and public interest institutions led by Wake Forest University—to support existing and new research efforts about women and girls of color.
  
  
• At the United State of Women Summit in June 2016, eight organizations launched “Young Women’s Initiatives,” place-based, data-driven programs that will focus in on the local needs of young women of color. Those organizations include the Women’s Foundation of Minnesota, the Women’s Foundation of California, the Women's Foundation for a Greater Memphis, the Washington Area Women’s Foundation, the Dallas Women’s Foundation, the Women’s Fund of Greater Birmingham, the Women’s Fund of Western Massachusetts, and the New York Women’s Foundation.
  

Small Business

• There are 8 million minority-owned firms in the U.S.—a 38% increase since 2007.
  
  
• In early 2015, the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) launched the MBK Millennial Entrepreneurs Initiative, which seeks to address the challenges faced by underserved millennials, including boys and young men of color, through self-employment and entrepreneurship. A major component of this effort included the six-part video series, titled “Biz My Way,” which encourages millennials to follow their passion in business.
  
  
• In fiscal year 2015, underserved markets received 32,563 loans totaling $13 billion, compared with 25,799 loans and $10.47 billion in fiscal year 2014, an increase of 26 percent in number of loans and 24 percent in dollar amount.
  
  
• Last year, the SBA issued a new rule that makes most individuals currently on probation or parole eligible for a SBA microloan—a loan of up to $50,000 that helps small businesses start up. And in August 2016, SBA together with the W.K. Kellogg Foundation and Justine Petersen, launched the Aspire Entrepreneurship Initiative, a $2.1 Million pilot initiative to provide entrepreneurship education and microloans to returning citizens in Detroit, Chicago, Louisville and St. Louis.
  

Civil Rights Division

• The Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division continued to enforce federal law. Over the last eight years, the Division has vigorously protected the civil rights of individuals in housing, lending, employment, voting, education, and disability rights and through hate crimes and law enforcement misconduct prosecutions and law enforcement pattern and practice cases.
  

African-American Judicial Appointees

• President Obama has made 62 lifetime appointments of African Americans to serve on the federal bench.
  
  
• This includes 9 African-American circuit court judges.
  
  
• It also includes the appointment of 53 African American district court judges—including 26 African-American women appointed to the federal court, which is more African-American women appointed by any President in history.
  
  
• In total, 19% of the President’s confirmed judges have been African American, compared to 16% under President Bill Clinton and 7% under President George W. Bush.
  
  
• Five states now have their first African-American circuit judge; 10 states now have their first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge; and 3 districts now have their first African-American district judge.
  
  
• Also, the President appointed the first Haitian-American lifetime-appointed federal judge, the first Afro-Caribbean-born district judge, the first African-American female circuit judge in the Sixth Circuit, and the first African-American circuit judge on the First Circuit (who was also the first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge to serve anywhere in the First Circuit).
  
  
• The President is committed to continuing to ensure diversity on the federal bench. This year, the President nominated Myra Selby of Indiana to the Seventh Circuit, Abdul Kallon of Alabama to the Eleventh Circuit, and Rebecca Haywood of Pennsylvania to the Third Circuit. If confirmed, each of these would be a judicial first—Myra Selby would be the first African-American circuit judge from Indiana, Abdul Kallon would be the first African-American circuit judge from Alabama, and Rebecca Haywood would be the first African-American woman on the Third Circuit.In addition, two of the President’s district court nominees—Stephanie Finely and Patricia Timmons-Goodson—would be the first African-American lifetime-appointed federal judges in each of their respective districts, if confirmed.
  Progress of the African-American Community During the Obama Administration

 

[GASign]

See the paid to posts accounts are still in full force still defending King Sodomy by any means

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

I propose this question:

What the do with a people who are highly morbid and sadistic, who have a deep love for seeing others suffer, in particularly Black people.

Appeal to their vanity. Make it seem like it’s their idea. Make them think they’re getting something out of it. Sorry but this is how politics works. The alternative is blood and guns. Anything else is just a pipe dream.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Appeal to their vanity. Make it seem like it’s their idea. Make them think they’re getting something out of it. Sorry but this is how politics works. The alternative is blood and guns. Anything else is just a pipe dream.

This is a critical crossroad.

 

[that guy]

I'm genuinely curious about this thought process. Hypothetically, if a policy has a positive impact on all people but has a disproportionately positive impact on Black Americans, would you still be frustrated that it wasn't targeted only at Black Americans?
In your view, did the voting rights act or affirmative action "specifically benefit" Black Americans?

Its not that hard, the united states government specifically discriminated against black Americans on the federal, state, and local level. Therefore the corrective action must be specific. Why would non african-americans need affirmative action in the first place?

 

[Mission249]

Black people are at the bottom of affirmative actions since the earliest days, though it was Black people who suffered and died for it. It was Black people who historically was gerrymandered.

I didn't mention affirmative action.

There is only one group of people in American history who systemically socioeconomically have been deprived. And that group happens to be Black people (not immigrants in general, nor Black immigrants).

You're preaching to the choir. I think ADOS deserves reparations.

But, someone else in a thread said it best: if the majority can barely pass healthcare reform for themselves, why would they vote to give you reparations?

If you think your salvation is thru shaming your oppressors into giving you everything you want, then you're going to be waiting for a long time. So if it's possible to coalition build and pass laws that disproportionately benefit you and yours, why wouldn't you continuously do that? Eventually that helps your community build a political power base strong enough to make stronger demands.

 

[Big Boss]

Damn Obama didn't do shyt for us

 

[Ish Gibor]

I didn't mention affirmative action.

So you didn't write the following?:

"… the voting rights act or affirmative action "specifically benefit" Black Americans?"

Since I am preaching to the choir, we both can agree on the facts that Black Americans are the only group who systemically have been targeted all throughout American history. There is no other group who can say the same. And yes, ADOS do deserve reparations. Whites were given all these handouts, social/ marxist benefits like Headright System, Homestead Act, the dozens of massacres like Devils Punchbowl, Tulsa, Rosewood etc. And all the Jim Crow laws, like the Black codes, Pig Laws, Redlining, Land Grab etc. directly and indirectly socioeconomically benefited whites.

After WWII the government invested over 190 billion into the white community, while the Black community only got 2% out of that.

After the abolishment of the Jim Crow they implemented drugs in the Black communities.

The question is, with what type of demonic beast are we dealing here? It sure isn't the "Biblical love" they have been preaching, since only hate was used. We now know that it's based on metaphors, allegories and parables.

You're preaching to the choir. I think ADOS deserves reparations.

But, someone else in a thread said it best: if the majority can barely pass healthcare reform for themselves, why would they vote to give you reparations?

If you think your salvation is thru shaming your oppressors into giving you everything you want, then you're going to be waiting for a long time. So if it's possible to coalition build and pass laws that disproportionately benefit you and yours, why wouldn't you continuously do that? Eventually that helps your community build a political power base strong enough to make stronger demands.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Smh this thread title is such BS... You should've had it as

"Obama explains what he did for black people on Breakfast Club"

The Coli still trying to stick to this narrative that he didn't do anything.


Cliff notes for people:

- Said he was confident he did a lot for black people cuz he has the statistics to prove it (peep my sig). Prison records dropped, juvenile records dropped, changed sentencing to more reasonable accounts, crime rates dropped, black poverty dropped to it's lowest level. Black businesses and black income rose to it's highest. Black unemployment reached it's lowest. And these numbers rose higher than with any other race.

-Republicans and State Governors blocked him from doing all that he wanted to do with Obamacare. Some governors wouldn't accept funding/medicaid dollars even though it wouldn't cost them a dime cuz they simply just wanted to oppose him.

- He doesn't break the laws like Trump does in order to get things done and knows the constitution and the consequences of said actions.

- Didn't go around advertising everything he did like Trump does cuz he didn't want to make others feel like they weren't getting anything.

- Says there's no way to change in 8 years what's been broken for 200 years.

- Says the presidency is like a relay race and unless the following President's stick to the same policies that are working, it's always gonna be a back and forth in regards to progress.

props for this and just to add my 2 cents i think CTG was out of line for that question.

 

[Mission249]

So you didn't write the following?:

My bad. I meant leaders taking affirmative action in general not the specific existing, policies around things like school admissions. You're right - they don't actually disproportionately improve blacks.
I should've been clearer.

Since I am preaching to the choir, we both can agree on the facts that Black Americans are the only group who systemically have been targeted all throughout American history. There is no other group who can say the same. And yes, ADOS do deserve reparations. Whites were given all these handouts, social/ marxist benefits like Headright System, Homestead Act, the dozens of massacres like Devils Punchbowl, Tulsa, Rosewood etc. And all the Jim Crow laws, like the Black codes, Pig Laws, Redlining, Land Grab etc. directly and indirectly socioeconomically benefited whites.

After WWII the government invested over 190 billion into the white community, while the Black community only got 2% out of that.

After the abolishment of the Jim Crow they implemented drugs in the Black communities.

The question is, with what type of demonic beast are we dealing here? It sure isn't the "Biblical love" they have been preaching, since only hate was used. We now know that it's based on metaphors, allegories and parables.

My thing is: if ya'll make the argument that "not uniquely targeting Blacks doesn't work cause it's too slow or ineffective" or whatever, then I can kind of understand that and we can start looking historically at legislation that was intended to disproportionately target blacks but failed. And understand why and how to do it better, while still understanding we can only succeed thru coalition building since nobody cares about only us except us.
But if your argument is anything that doesn't target us and just us is a non-starter, even if there's concrete proof of disproportionately positive impact on blacks, then I don't know where we can really go from here? We know the history. We know morality. But politics is about what you can take not what you deserve.

So again, hypothetically, if Obama could pass legislation that has a proven, large impact on Blacks, but also has some lesser impact on maybe Latinos or Native Americans, why wouldn't we applaud and continue that? Because it doesn't feel right?