Obama to propose free community college

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Most low income people can get cc free if they choose too. The issue is with 4 year schools costing so much leading people into debt.
yes most but not all so this will benefit the people that cant people always want to close a door once they walk through it im just tired of hearing it in or politics.
 

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good move but maybe bad move.

im guessing the wages will go down due to over-saturation, also associates will end up useless. but it will help alot of people.
 

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More debt...

I don't understand why if you are perfectly capable of paying for college why the taxpayers need to foot the bill.

Financial aid and grants are great for those that don't have means to afford college and I agree with that concept but now we just paying for the next MAN'S college. And keep in mind by college your a grown ass man. Have some resonsibility for your own future.
 

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I'm not sure I understand what you have been opposing in this thread?

You say make business loans eaisier to obtain while objecting to making higher education easier to obtain


What are you doing?

You seem to be on your @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! shyt
Business loans stimulate the economy and will put more people to work by sheer demand than lining a select few pockets.
 

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Business loans stimulate the economy and will put more people to work by sheer demand than lining a select few pockets.
Understood of course

But people potentially getting the loans being more educated will help as well.

And I ask again what is it that you're objecting to in this thread?
 

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An issue is many kids have uneducated parents and don't know how to jug the system. Once you are of college age you're parents should not be claiming you on their taxes, but kids will be 20 and still on their parents taxes cause their parents want a bigger refund and that screws up the kids financial aid options. Also instead of going to a State School kids want to go to these private schools they can't afford, so you got cats that go to Morehouse or Emory and Major in something dumb and think the Schools name will make moves for them. I took my behind to the cheapest Public HBCU in the State that had the same accrediting as Emory and GA Tech and got my education for 1/10th the price.

I have student loans from just 1.5 yrs of college after that I was straight grants and scholarships, moved off campus and was getting 3k refunds, and I worked at Tmobile so I was making like 35k as a college student, looking back I wish my dumb ass would have invested those 3k refunds or just used the 3k refunds for living expenses (it pretty much handled rent and utilities each semester) and use my work money for investments, you live and you learn though
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More debt...

I don't understand why if you are perfectly capable of paying for college why the taxpayers need to foot the bill.

Financial aid and grants are great for those that don't have means to afford college and I agree with that concept but now we just paying for the next MAN'S college. And keep in mind by college your a grown ass man. Have some resonsibility for your own future.
Doesnt have to be more debt. We are wasting money on other shyt we can cut back on.

And you are already paying for the next MAN's elementary/high school education. Your health insurance pays for the next MAN's treatment including the uninsured. Your taxes pay for the next MAN's public services you might not even use or agree with. So why is this all of a sudden a problem. These right wing red herrings are played out.
 

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Doesnt have to be more debt. We are wasting money on other shyt we can cut back on.

And you are already paying for the next MAN's elementary/high school education. Your health insurance pays for the next MAN's treatment including the uninsured. Your taxes pay for the next MAN's public services you might not even use or agree with. So why is this all of a sudden a problem. These right wing red herrings are played out.


^^^and this is not all of a sudden a problem. Just the latest. I agree that the majority of things you referenced we SHOULDN'T be paying for. The point is at college you are a grown up. Start accepting that and don't expect everyone else to help you out. If you don't want to go in debt or can't get a scholarship then go into the work force and learn a trade. Go work your way up somewhere.

I mean christ. Dudes is living at their moms house until their in their late 20s??? Wtf.
 

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An issue is many kids have uneducated parents and don't know how to jug the system. Once you are of college age you're parents should not be claiming you on their taxes, but kids will be 20 and still on their parents taxes cause their parents want a bigger refund and that screws up the kids financial aid options. Also instead of going to a State School kids want to go to these private schools they can't afford, so you got cats that go to Morehouse or Emory and Major in something dumb and think the Schools name will make moves for them. I took my behind to the cheapest Public HBCU in the State that had the same accrediting as Emory and GA Tech and got my education for 1/10th the price.

I have student loans from just 1.5 yrs of college after that I was straight grants and scholarships, moved off campus and was getting 3k refunds, and I worked at Tmobile so I was making like 35k as a college student, looking back I wish my dumb ass would have invested those 3k refunds or just used the 3k refunds for living expenses (it pretty much handled rent and utilities each semester) and use my work money for investments, you live and you learn though
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^^^and this is not all of a sudden a problem. Just the latest. I agree that the majority of things you referenced we SHOULDN'T be paying for. The point is at college you are a grown up. Start accepting that and don't expect everyone else to help you out. If you don't want to go in debt or can't get a scholarship then go into the work force and learn a trade. Go work your way up somewhere.

I mean christ. Dudes is living at their moms house until their in their late 20s??? Wtf.
I dont have a problem with paying for those things if they make society better. Scandinavian countries have extensive public programs and are also very happy places to live (despite being cold as fukk)- IMO the two things are highly related.

Americans love to puff their chests and pretend like we are all individuals on little islands but really we all benefit from help. If you are making regular money, yea you pay taxes but for the most part all the public shyt you use- roads, airports, police, whatever- are subsidized by people with way more money than you as rich people pay the lion's share of taxes. Unless you went to private school someone bankrolled that for you too. So the idea that a society that helps lift its people up through collectivism is a bad thing is ridiculous. There are plenty of real life examples of it working.

The key is for things to be rational and accountable. Id rather have a 50% tax rate and extensive public programs with a govt that actually represents the interests of its people, than be paying the 40% or w/e Im paying now in total and live under a cronyist regime touting bootstrap propaganda. Wake up :ufdup:
 

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More debt...

I don't understand why if you are perfectly capable of paying for college why the taxpayers need to foot the bill.

Financial aid and grants are great for those that don't have means to afford college and I agree with that concept but now we just paying for the next MAN'S college. And keep in mind by college your a grown ass man. Have some resonsibility for your own future.
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