Obama: TPP will pass after the election

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You can tell Obama really wants this. He probably sees TPP as a top 3 legacy achievement. Healthcare reform, warding of a depression and TPP. He's been wanting to get away from the middle east geopolitically, and pivot toward strengthening partnerships in southeast Asia his whole presidency.
Yup. He also feels like the jobs that will be loss are going to be gone sooner rather than later anyway so he's like :manny:
 

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TPP isn't a trade deal. All of those countries in Asia will continue trading with China. Tariffs are already low with the US.

TPP is a corporate power play. On one hand, it gives multinational corporations, many of which are like nation-states in their own rights (I don’t think any have nuclear weapons yet, though), the right to sue democratic countries whose labor and pollution laws hurt their profit margins.

On the other hand, it sets up a security agreement in the Pacific to “counter China”, part of the neocon / neolib agenda to restart the Cold War – see the stationing of U.S. missiles in South Korea, very simliar to putting nukes in Turkey during the Cold War, a major factor in the Cuban Missile Crisis. This, like the Nuland project in eastern Europe, is highly destabilizing to world relations – but good news for the war pig profit margins.

There is plenty of evidence that these are the real TPP agendas:

Obama has provided further evidence that the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) more closely resembles a scheme for international governance like the European Union rather than a traditional trade agreement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...-true-nature-of-the-trans-pacific-partnership

TPP and Big Pharma summarized in this piece co-authored by Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz:

"The TPP would manage trade in pharmaceuticals through a variety of seemingly arcane rule changes on issues such as ‘patent linkage', ‘data exclusivity', and ‘biologics.' The upshot is that pharmaceutical companies would effectively be allowed to extend — sometimes almost indefinitely — their monopolies on patented medicines, keep cheaper generics off the market, and block ‘biosimilar' competitors from introducing new medicines for years."
 

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You can tell Obama really wants this. He probably sees TPP as a top 3 legacy achievement. Healthcare reform, warding of a depression and TPP. He's been wanting to get away from the middle east geopolitically, and pivot toward strengthening partnerships in southeast Asia his whole presidency.

Sounds a little like the Clinton years. Education reform, dot com bubble, NAFTA.
 

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Great, as it should.

When they bypass the EPA and Dodd-Frank laws with TPP :banderas:


Edit: I'll clarify, I'm trolling with this post TPP doesn't have power to change domestic law. However, if we pass stricter environmental laws in the future some corporation could sue if they think their investments will be affected.
 
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I look at it like this, there is going to be a trade deal with that part of the world sooner or later and i trust Obama's version over Trump or Hillary's.
 

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Good ol Brotha Barack.

Black employment is soaring, the middle class have pensions and savings that could choke a horse, the stawk market is shattering ATH's on basic fundamentals, insurers and customers alike are crashing the exchange websites twice a day to get the awesome new savings on health care, Europe is stronger than fukking ever, peace-loving Arab leaders are gifting us oil as an example of the benevolence of Islam towards mutually peaceful non-believers, and the overall economy is stable enough now for Sista Janet to hike rates two or three hundo basis points.

I have no reason to doubt Brotha Barack's word that this gigantic goddamn Biblical trade deal devised clandestinely is anything but another home run for America.
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I'm not even some jingoistic protectionist here. I'm for free trade. The countries that get fukked by these tribunals are countries like Canada (see NAFTA) It creates a secret court for investors to sue governments when the US has a robust court system they could sue in (which they do).

And some of these suits are legitimate. You can't invest billions in a country then have moron Chavez try to seize/nationalize your oil infrastructure....but I just don't see any upside for the US here other than i guess bullying other smaller countries. Which good for us, I guess.
 
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