Obama: TPP will pass after the election

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Don't you trust our overlords?

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A draft is out there
yeah and then you hear about the negotiations changing whats in that draft daily. if he could explain why this will help us instead of just saying agree with me because i'm smarter than you (and i do think he is smarter than me) then it would be better. right now it feels too secretive.
 

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it would be nice if he could explain why it's a better policy instead of the arrogant "it's good because i'm supporting it and i'm smarter than all of you"

remember when this administration was going to be about transparency? :francis:


Obeezy is slick but he has always been arrogant and condescending as fukk... must be from his moms side.
 

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Obeezy is slick but he has always been arrogant and condescending as fukk... must be from his moms side.
lmao i get what you're saying. but i know brehs without white moms who act the same way. it has to do with being insanely intelligent. he thinks he's slick, but people with a level of competence near his can see through the bullshyt. fortunately for him, most of the world isn't even close to his level of intellect and will follow blindly if they like him.
 
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When they bypass the EPA and Dodd-Frank laws with TPP :banderas:


Edit: I'll clarify, I'm trolling with this post TPP doesn't have power to change domestic law. However, if we pass stricter environmental laws in the future some corporation could sue if they think their investments will be affected.

So what exactly is the end game with touting the need for climate change reform? Is the ruling class hedging their bets?
 

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I look at it like this, there is going to be a trade deal with that part of the world sooner or later and i trust Obama's version over Trump or Hillary's.

Not really, our tariffs in that part of the world are already like zero.
 

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TPP isn't a trade deal. All of those countries in Asia will continue trading with China. Tariffs are already low with the US.

TPP is a corporate power play. On one hand, it gives multinational corporations, many of which are like nation-states in their own rights (I don’t think any have nuclear weapons yet, though), the right to sue democratic countries whose labor and pollution laws hurt their profit margins.

On the other hand, it sets up a security agreement in the Pacific to “counter China”, part of the neocon / neolib agenda to restart the Cold War – see the stationing of U.S. missiles in South Korea, very simliar to putting nukes in Turkey during the Cold War, a major factor in the Cuban Missile Crisis. This, like the Nuland project in eastern Europe, is highly destabilizing to world relations – but good news for the war pig profit margins.

There is plenty of evidence that these are the real TPP agendas:

Obama has provided further evidence that the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) more closely resembles a scheme for international governance like the European Union rather than a traditional trade agreement.

Obama and the true nature of the Trans-Pacific Partnership

TPP and Big Pharma summarized in this piece co-authored by Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz:

"The TPP would manage trade in pharmaceuticals through a variety of seemingly arcane rule changes on issues such as ‘patent linkage', ‘data exclusivity', and ‘biologics.' The upshot is that pharmaceutical companies would effectively be allowed to extend — sometimes almost indefinitely — their monopolies on patented medicines, keep cheaper generics off the market, and block ‘biosimilar' competitors from introducing new medicines for years."


this made me want an drink and I dont drink and its to early for that shyt.
 

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TPP is, but what Im saying is TPP is unnecessary to have trade with that region.

But isnt this supposed to create a set of rules every country in the agreement has to abide by so that they dont continue to be like China and produce at the cost of worker rights, safety standards, and increased pollution? If we have the power to put some leverage on that sort of thing right now then why not?
 

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But isnt this supposed to create a set of rules every country in the agreement has to abide by so that they dont continue to be like China and produce at the cost of worker rights, safety standards, and increased pollution? If we have the power to put some leverage on that sort of thing right now then why not?

Sure

But those working class people will get screwed over anyway when they go to a pharmacy and companies have deep monopolies
 
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