Obama wants paid sick leave

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Workers need protection such as paid sick leave, vacation time, maternity leave. They're not just drones and as a matter of fact they're more productive when they've had time off.

I'll be honest i've never worked for a place that didn't have all 3.
 

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America is by far the wealthiest nation on earth. It can easily afford to make certain reforms without impacting the quality of life or the economy.

I respect the work ethic of Americans but there needs to be a balance imo. Ppl are not machines....
It's corporate/capitalist culture in which there are very little protections for workers (they associate it with communism and labor camps). Instead they're just employees. Europeans are capitalist too, but there are better social programs.

Personally, I don't see myself living here much longer. The culture here is blame the poor, feed the rich and quite frankly it's disgusting. I'd love to repatriate to Africa but my mothers people are causing quite a stir :mjpls:
 

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Our vacation is shyt compared to every other 1st world nation and our leave. In other nations 20 days vacation is standard, out here we're lucky if we get 5 days. fukk yall saying this is too much.shyt I wish the work week was 32 hours, and we can take a nap midday like france, do your googles emotional ass nikkas
Americans are stupid. We think work is everything.
 

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It's corporate/capitalist culture in which there are very little protections for workers (they associate it with communism and labor camps). Instead they're just employees. Europeans are capitalist too, but there are better social programs.

Personally, I don't see myself living here much longer. The culture here is blame the poor, feed the rich and quite frankly it's disgusting. I'd love to repatriate to Africa but my mothers people are causing quite a stir :mjpls:


Yeah I always see the dreaded "socialist" word thrown around whenever people talk about offering something to those less fortunate. The hysteria surrounding Obamacare Lmao. Big business + lobbying culture + the American Dream I guess. You would probably get low paid workers who would vehemently argue against many of these proposals and take the position of big capitalists.


Yeah I've seen that. The Tigrai reign on top was shorter than leprechauns:mjpls:
 

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Its moreso for low level employees who can't afford to miss work due to sickness and are one paycheck from the poorhouse.

Plenty of times I've had employees come in sick as a dog but can't call off because their check will be short which means less money for bills.

Most companies won't even entertain the thought of vacation/pto/sick time because those employees are expendable. You want to take time off? You're fired? Oh you want to fight that? Right to work state, we can fire you without reason. And 2-3weeks later they'll have another employee in there to do the job.

Reminds me of that book Nickel and Diming:mjcry:
 

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As Chris Rock said "americans worship money."
Yep.

I done had jobs where i hear ppl say "I'm gonna kill em by takin all this overtime they givin out"

For one, you're not hurtin the company by workin a lot of overtime.

2nd, I dont know about them, but I value my time away from work. I dont wanna be more of a slave to a job than i already am
 

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:what:The president is the chief executive of the country of course he can do something. He could do anything from withholding federal money, sign an executive order, have the justice dept bring federal charges, etc. If Obama was a white man we would be collectively more furious than we were with gw bush!

And what exactly is he suppose to do? Just curious
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I read 4 day work weeks are better for employees and productivity. We also need more/longer maternity/paternity leave.
That's bogus. 4 day work weeks are usually 10-12 hr. days. It's just as spirit crushing and exhausting as 5 8hrs. days.
 

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:what:The president is the chief executive of the country of course he can do something. He could do anything from withholding federal money, sign an executive order, have the justice dept bring federal charges, etc. If Obama was a white man we would be collectively more furious than we were with gw bush!
Charges does not equal convictions though. You want him to put some unjust law into effect?
 

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Charges does not equal convictions though. You want him to put some unjust law into effect?
Federal charges could range from charging the murderer to civil rights lawsuits against the entire dept. No president should sit by idly singing we shall overcome, talking out both sides of his mouth but not doing anything, especially when there are no more elections to win. Barack Obama doesn't care about black people

And how could any new laws he could enact be unjust when we don't even have justice yet? 400 years and we still don't have justice
 

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Federal charges could range from charging the murderer to civil rights lawsuits against the entire dept. No president should sit by idly singing we shall overcome, talking out both sides of his mouth but not doing anything, especially when there are no more elections to win. Barack Obama doesn't care about black people

And how could any new laws he could enact be unjust when we don't even have justice yet? 400 years and we still don't have justice
Nothing is stopping anyone from filing civil suits. Again charging someone does not mean convictions. Unless u want OB to appoint himself judge, jury and executioner for life, everything you said is silly.
 

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Americans don't get paid when they're sick?

:wtf:

I'm guessing he's referring to making this mandatory. I have like 240 hours of sick time currently cuz I simply have no reason to use sick days.

a lot of smaller businesses and low level jobs don't offer this benefit obviously.
 
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