Obamacare struck down by Texas federal judge
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Pull Up the Roots
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This is why it is horseshyt. This is why republicans specifically targeted the mandate in their tax bill, even though it was ruled constitutional by the SC.it's not 'bullshyt' for a judge ruling that the government cant require americans to buy health insuranceim sorry you don't deal in facts
to help you get to sleep, try to imagine george bush forcing you to buy insurance, or donald trump
Federal court rules Obamacare unconstitutional — but the law stands for now
Texas v. United States, the lawsuit that threatens to take down Obamacare, explained
Twenty state attorneys general filed this lawsuit against Obamacare in early 2018. They essentially make a two-part argument for why Obamacare is unconstitutional in the wake of Congress’s decision to end the law’s mandate to carry health insurance.
The first part of their argument is over the individual mandate itself. Remember, the 2017 tax bill got rid of the financial penalties for remaining uninsured. But it didn’t totally kill off this part of Obamacare. The mandate to carry health insurance actually still stands as federal law — there just isn’t any fine for those who decide not to comply.
The Supreme Court specifically upheld the individual mandate as a tax. If there the mandate doesn’t have a penalty, the attorneys general argue, then it’s no longer a tax — and thus unconstitutional.
On its own, a court decision that declares the individual mandate unconstitutional wouldn’t be a big deal for Obamacare. The financial penalty is, after all, already gone.
But the state attorneys general take their case a step further. They argue that, if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional, than the rest of the law needs to fall along with it. Or, as the lawsuit itself puts it: “Once the heart of the ACA—the individual mandate—is declared unconstitutional, the remainder of the ACA must also fall.”
Essentially, the state attorneys general are arguing that the individual mandate isn’t severable from the rest of the law. If the court finds the mandate unconstitutional, then the rest of the law — everything from protections for preexisting conditions to the Medicaid expansion required calorie labeling on menus — has to go down with it.
If the Trump administration’s argument were to prevail, insurers could once again be able to flat-out deny Americans insurance based on their health status. No amount of federal subsidies would protect them.
levitate
I love you, you know.
Every GoP candidate since it passed has pledged to rip it up by the roots...They replaced it with a better plan?
Dont tell me where we are now is a complete surprise?edit: A better plan was suggested but was rejected by people on both sides of the isle.
"Illegal immigrants dont affect me and my well off family, fukk the extremely high percentage of black folk who are affected *yadayada condescending babble*
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Bleed The Freak
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How TF did this get to illegals?
That shyt could go away if they threw the execs/hotels/Disneyland/farm owners in jail for hiring folks.
That shyt could go away if they threw the execs/hotels/Disneyland/farm owners in jail for hiring folks.
mc_brew
#NotMyPresident
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Those are job creators, we can't throw them in jail. They are rich, thus they are sacred. It is much better for us to demonize the poor and desperate illegals than to go after the rich AMERICANS that entice them with employment.
KingJudah2
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Cleaned that up for you
how do south americans coming here illegally/as migrants, help your community
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How would they get medicare?
I live in the UK and when I moved here my salary was taxed higher for the NHS automatically, until I was working for a certain set of months. Beyond that I have no access to public services like welfare. Why would the US implement the policy any differently?
Totally off topic. But I have seen some of the shyt that mods have been allowed to slide on recently.
The question is, after your Charlottesville comments, were you actually stripped of your privileges or did you volunteer that they be removed?
Just curious.
Part of the reason it was a bad policy
at the end of the day it was simply too partisan, and Republicans told America upfront what they were going to do when they got power and they did it...
Passing legislation you know will be repealed is costly and careless in my opinion... but i guess dems were hoping rethugs were bluffing.
Doesn't matter though. Recession is in the air all over, if the ACA is repealed you are looking at full blown confusion and loads of people dying.
Financial and social anarchy. All under Trump's watch, with the GOP being in full control of the senate. They will have to eat it.
Republicans also claimed they would have an alternative to replace the ACA, as it was established that to rip the ACA out without a reasonable solution was suicide.
Where's the replacement? Remember the repeal and replace mantra?
If I am the Dems I am immediately dropping ads with people screaming and crying with shots of filled hospital rooms juxtaposed to all the GOP senators saying "Repeal and Replace" and ending the ad with a tombstone that says, "Where was the replacement?"
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YaThreadTrashB!
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The SC needs to fix these fed judges being able to rule this shyt unconstitutional on both sides
Bleed The Freak
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This will be the dog who caught the car if it gets gutted.
The GOP will fold....trust.
If I was a Dem in Congress I'd wait for the phone to ring.
Wouldn't help with shyt until they came begging. The states who got Medicaid money, their budgets would get RUINED.
And the optics of kicking people off.
You have ALL the leverage.
The GOP will fold....trust.
If I was a Dem in Congress I'd wait for the phone to ring.
Wouldn't help with shyt until they came begging. The states who got Medicaid money, their budgets would get RUINED.
And the optics of kicking people off.
You have ALL the leverage.
Low hanging fruit.
Almost everyone is in favor of the preexisting condition part of the law. Good luck taking that away now that the ACA as a whole has close to 50% approval rating.
It will be an eve bigger bloodbath in 2020.