Obama's Library will help Southside Chicago.....into gentrification.

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its not gonna be easy moving us from certain areas in the city, fukk what ya'll talking bout

bronzeville right by downtown basically and its still majority black

they cleaned up the west loop area a lot but its still black folks all up and through that bytch..couple project buildings still up ova there on 15th & loomis too, they cleaned them shyts up thou
That area over by Costco. So much land. Only a matter of time before they build up stuff there. Suprised they still have project buildings in that area to be honest.
 

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We have city and union jobs around my parts,what are these factories you speak of :mjpls:

@ab.aspectus How is Olympia fields and homewood becoming shyt holes:what:
Negworthy claims

floosmoor is still nice but Homewood is going down the drain on fo nem
 

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You told me to stop quoting you, yet here you are :gucci:

You have absolutely no control over those emotions do you
As long as you’re commenting on comments directed at me, I feel free to talk shyt to you. Essentially that’s all you were doing to me; talking shyt about me indirectly.

Now. Who’s “they”? :martin:
 

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Yall will do anything to defend beloved Obama even flip gentrification into a good thing :mjlol:

That's the problem with liberals and liberal thinking....

These people talking like White people...

"Well what's wrong with a little prestige for the neighborhood? They must not like nice things. So what if the rent goes up? It would be nice if they put a fitness center or a juice bar."
 

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You know the metra electric is weak as hell running like once an hour and stopping service altogether early. And the pace bus service doesn't compare at all to the CTA. South suburban public transportation does not compare to anywhere in the city. And even some of the close suburbs like Skokie, Evanston and oak Park have CTA service. None of the south suburbs do.

This is true. Inner north and west suburbs have CTA and Pace Bus access, Metra and El access, convenient expressway access as well as the most overlooked part, side street. Coming from Oak Park or River Forest, if the expressway is backed up, you can easily take Lake, Washington, Madison into downtown. From Evanston, Sheridan, Clark, or Western.

As far as the IC, take the Electric line to Homewood/Flossmoor and then take the BNSF to Hinsdale. It will literally piss you off how fast and how many express trains they have going to and from Hinsdale. Trains go twice as fast to the Western Suburbs.
 

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You know the metra electric is weak as hell running like once an hour and stopping service altogether early. And the pace bus service doesn't compare at all to the CTA. South suburban public transportation does not compare to anywhere in the city. And even some of the close suburbs like Skokie, Evanston and oak Park have CTA service. None of the south suburbs do.
You comparing inner ring suburbs to the south burbs that’s way further out breh :beli:
Metra Electric got express service in the morning and evening rush

South burbs alone still got better transit than the whole city of Dallas :umad:

@ab.aspectus My parents been living in CC Hills since 93’, I lived there off and on throughout my childhood. It ain’t as quiet as it was back in the day but it’s far from a shythole

You over here acting like CC Hills, Matteson, Olympia Fields, Homewood is Harvey or markham status :mindblown::camby:
 

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You comparing inner ring suburbs to the south burbs that’s way further out breh :beli:
Metra Electric got express service in the morning and evening rush

South burbs alone still got better transit than the whole city of Dallas :umad:

@ab.aspectus My parents been living in CC Hills since 93’, I lived there off and on throughout my childhood. It ain’t as quiet as it was back in the day but it’s far from a shythole

You over here acting like CC Hills, Matteson, Olympia Fields, Homewood is Harvey or markham status :mindblown::camby:
Why are we comparing the south suburbs to an entirely different city? Am I supposed to be offended about Dallas and their public transportation options?

That said, Even suburbs right by the city like cal park don't have great CTA access. And parts of the city that's far south are undeserved. I'm talking like Pullman and what not. Also, the times i come to the chi, I don't even need a car because I can walk to the train or store or easily Uber. That's the convenience most suburbs don't have.

And he'll naw CC hills ain't like Harvey. But what I'm saying is they (Homewood, Flossmoore, Matteson) tax you on your crib like Evanston and oak Park and your not getting close to the same amenities.
 

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@ab.aspectus My parents been living in CC Hills since 93’, I lived there off and on throughout my childhood. It ain’t as quiet as it was back in the day but it’s far from a shythole

You over here acting like CC Hills, Matteson, Olympia Fields, Homewood is Harvey or markham status

C C Hills couldn't even sustain a grocery store for years. There was a Country Market over there on 183rd and Pulaski that closed in the late 90s. They were never able to get anything to fill that space. What they did get across the street was a liquor store, payday loan store, and a dollar general.

North CC Hills serviced by Hillcrest might as well be Markham. Right along with the Walmart, across the street came a cash advance, boost mobile, liquor store and barbershop.

Go to the corner of 175th and Kedzie near Pottawottamie Hills, the shopping plaza, Ariston, and the two gas stations at each of the corners, all have LED lighting with bars across the windows that look like this....

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And Pottawattomie Hills used to be nice. Ya'll came in 93 which is right about the time when folks from the city started coming out to the the south suburbs in numbers and when things started to change. So you might not have noticed it much. My mother's side came out south from Washington Park in '69 and left Olympia Fields in '89 for OPRF where home values were more stable.

And you talking about Markham. Markham was still predominantly white up until like the mid-90s.
 

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The low income black vs middle class debate in this thread is :martin:

Sorry breh....aint' mean to derail your thread.

My point was, gentrification removes and replaces the low income residents of a neighborhood. In Chicago's case, the trend has been to relocate them to what were solidly midde class neighborhoods. This helps no one and has been a strategy to decentralize Chicago's black middle class community. The best course of action, like most in this thread have agreed, is to work with the folks in their own community, where they are. Keep them there and develop policies that will allow them to take advantage of the increased property values and economic opportunities if it does come to the point that their neighborhood gentrifies. Gentrification has historically not been beneficial for low-income residents and I would add, in Chicago's case, it's black middle class community. This isn't a Poor vs. Rich black debate but one in where we need to be a bit more attentive to the effects of gentrifications that are a bit more far reaching than people would have thought.
 
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Sorry breh....aint' mean to derail your thread.

My point was, gentrification removes and replaces the low income residents of a neighborhood. In Chicago's case, the trend has been to relocate them to what were solidly midde class neighborhoods. This helps no one and has been a strategy to decentralize Chicago's black middle class community. The best course of action, like most in this thread have agreed, is to work with the folks in their own community, where they are. Keep them there and develop policies that will allow them to take advantage of the increased property values and economic opportunities if it does come to the point that their neighborhood gentrifies. Gentrification has historically not been beneficial for low-income residents and I would add, in Chicago's case, it's black middle class community. This isn't a Poor vs. Rich black debate but one in where we need to be a bit more attentive to the effects of gentrifications that are a bit more far reaching than people would have thought.

I agree....you weren't in the wrong.
 
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