Obama’s Sent Blunt Message To The Democrats: ‘Toughen up’

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What do you mean by climbing Olympus

But I agree with the overall point that they been working through a plan, the public just don’t realize it yet

It wasn't till after WW2 America became a super power. We are basically the gods of this world now and at least for the next 100 years no matter what you might hear about the dollar not being the worlds reserve currency.

unfortunately we borrowed alot of money since to get to the top and its now a problem.
 

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It's not really Obama's fault though. It's just the nature of the country.

At the end of the day all of this MAGA shyt is backlash against a black person being president. That's what it comes down to, not immigration or trans issues.
a black man being president ushered in the tea party which ushered in trump.

economy was good under obama foreclosures was under Bush n them Obama cleaned all that up
This is the real truth of this nation that ppl don’t want to accept.


Which is the main reason why they shouldn’t have run Harris. Not because she is incompetent, but because this country ain’t letting someone Black, especially a woman, get in that House again. At least not for a looooong ass time.
 

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Democrats need to adopt new ways to govern
They need to rebrand
I know it might sound crazy but they need a star to get into politics
And they need to be charismatic upon giving the party hope and Not be afraid of Trump

Problem is all the Dems do is whine and cry about trump being the boogie man which is weak
 
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Democrats need to adopt new ways to govern
They need to rebrand
I know it might sound crazy but they need a star to get into politics
And they need to be charismatic upon giving the party hope and be afraid of Trump

Problem is all the Dems do is whine and cry about trump being the boogie man which is weak

They really don’t have any “star” power in the party..the closest is what? AOC? Newsom? AOC has problems with the “establishment” Dems (Schumer, Pelosi, etc..) you’d think they’d back her and her hyper progressive policies? fukk no. Newsom would be ripped to shreds and he knows this which is why he waffled over a 2024 run..his governance in California is his weakness where even some of the most hardened democrat donors in that State are looking at him sideways now.
 

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The banks crashed in 08. my hood started foreclosing around 07 when the subprimes started to blow

Obama elected in 09. blame Obama:stopitslime:
Did Obama cause the crash? No.

Could Obama have done what the Bush admin was pondering (write down mortgages vs letting a wave happen)? Yes.

Just cause the calendar went to 2009 didn’t mean that the wave stopped. It continued into his 2nd term.
 

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Did Obama cause the crash? No.

Could Obama have done what the Bush admin was pondering (write down mortgages vs letting a wave happen)? Yes.

Just cause the calendar went to 2009 didn’t mean that the wave stopped. It continued into his 2nd term.
They was handing out mortgages like candy. Loan officers and lenders were making out hand over first. Those who could refinance to legitimate loans did just that. Those that could not unfortunately took a loss.

Yall act like Obama could wave a magic wand and fix decades of irresponsible and predatory lending. Dodd Frank was put in place to prevent that from happening again. Font see what more
 

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They was handing out mortgages like candy. Loan officers and lenders were making out hand over first. Those who could refinance to legitimate loans did just that. Those that could not unfortunately took a loss.

Yall act like Obama could wave a magic wand and fix decades of irresponsible and predatory lending. Dodd Frank was put in place to prevent that from happening again. Font see what more

You’re right that the lending practices were absolutely predatory and that decades of deregulation created the mess. But the issue isn’t whether Obama could wave a magic wand - it’s that he had very specific tools at his disposal that he chose not to use effectively.

Congress literally wrote into the TARP legislation that the funds should be used to “prevent avoidable foreclosures” and left the details up to the incoming president. Obama’s own economic adviser Larry Summers promised Congress they’d commit $50-100 billion to address foreclosures, but when push came to shove, they designed a program (HAMP) that was entirely voluntary for banks and helped only about 1 million homeowners out of 10 million at risk. Even worse, according to Elizabeth Warren and the TARP inspector general, Treasury Secretary Geithner explicitly told them the program was designed to “foam the runway” for banks - meaning it was intended to help banks absorb foreclosures slowly, not actually save homes.

The administration also had massive leverage through law enforcement. Banks had committed widespread fraud in the foreclosure process - wrong dates, missing signatures, foreclosing on homes they didn’t even own the mortgages to. Under existing law, this gave the federal government enormous power to force banks to negotiate. But the FBI, DOJ, and IRS basically refused to use any of it because they were worried about threatening bank balance sheets.

Nobody expected Obama to fix decades of bad policy overnight, but when you have Congress giving you $700 billion and explicit authority to help homeowners, and you end up designing a program that actually makes the foreclosure process more efficient for banks, that’s a policy choice. Dodd-Frank was important for preventing future crises, but it did nothing for the millions of people losing their homes in real time. The frustrating part is that this wasn’t just morally wrong - it was bad politics and bad economics that weakened the recovery and contributed to the populist backlash we’re still dealing with today.
 

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You’re right that the lending practices were absolutely predatory and that decades of deregulation created the mess. But the issue isn’t whether Obama could wave a magic wand - it’s that he had very specific tools at his disposal that he chose not to use effectively.

Congress literally wrote into the TARP legislation that the funds should be used to “prevent avoidable foreclosures” and left the details up to the incoming president. Obama’s own economic adviser Larry Summers promised Congress they’d commit $50-100 billion to address foreclosures, but when push came to shove, they designed a program (HAMP) that was entirely voluntary for banks and helped only about 1 million homeowners out of 10 million at risk. Even worse, according to Elizabeth Warren and the TARP inspector general, Treasury Secretary Geithner explicitly told them the program was designed to “foam the runway” for banks - meaning it was intended to help banks absorb foreclosures slowly, not actually save homes.

The administration also had massive leverage through law enforcement. Banks had committed widespread fraud in the foreclosure process - wrong dates, missing signatures, foreclosing on homes they didn’t even own the mortgages to. Under existing law, this gave the federal government enormous power to force banks to negotiate. But the FBI, DOJ, and IRS basically refused to use any of it because they were worried about threatening bank balance sheets.

Nobody expected Obama to fix decades of bad policy overnight, but when you have Congress giving you $700 billion and explicit authority to help homeowners, and you end up designing a program that actually makes the foreclosure process more efficient for banks, that’s a policy choice. Dodd-Frank was important for preventing future crises, but it did nothing for the millions of people losing their homes in real time. The frustrating part is that this wasn’t just morally wrong - it was bad politics and bad economics that weakened the recovery and contributed to the populist backlash we’re still dealing with today.
Thats the key word prevent 'avoidable' foreclosures. Good portion of those loans foreclosing was not avoidable. Home values plummeted. People was owing way more than the house worth and they had no equity. Why even stay in that situation? People who wanted to stay(and qualified for more stringent underwriting) got into fixed fha loans. Others was cutting they losses...stripping the house of copper and keeping it moving. Wasn't really until dam near a decade laterafter pandemic that the values was higher than in the 00s around here.

Half my block was on those loans and most of them foreclosed. Somehow my mom on her 40k income and bad credit was able to refinance with hella high mortgage insurance but dam near the whole neighborhood changed from all black to dam near all Hispanic. Was wild to see in real time.

i will agree with you to banks got away with a slap on the wrist but that's America for you. hasn't been for the people in a long time.


Government stopped being for the people a long time ago.
 

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Hunter Biden says Democrats lost election for not staying ‘loyal’ to his father​

is this fakkit serious :what:

this piece of shyt was part of the reason biden even ran for a second term, which NEVER should have happened. so his family could keep profiting off the presidency. it wasn't about what was best for the party or the country at all

trump should throw him in prison
 
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