Obama’s Sent Blunt Message To The Democrats: ‘Toughen up’

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a black man being president ushered in the tea party which ushered in trump.

economy was good under obama foreclosures was under Bush n them Obama cleaned all that up
No. The foreclosure wave continued under Obama.





I personally had to get my parents house short sold in 2013. Fresh out of college. Most stressful time of my life.

And I live in PG County MD which was hit hard.
 

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The banks crashed in 08. my hood started foreclosing around 07 when the subprimes started to blow

Obama elected in 09. blame Obama:stopitslime:
 

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Part of the problem is shyt like this.

These cliche phrases and grandstanding bullshyt.

Give ideas. Give solutions. Give a plan to restore some order. Even a plan to poach voters in the middle or on the other side.

People are tired of speeches.

They let the orange buffoon reel them
In to his emotional, nonsensical world. So it becomes how to combat trump and less about how to improve peoples lives.
 

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If you haven’t figured it out yet trump is a democrat plant from Obama and is basically doing the democrats dirty work.

The path America is on has to and will take place regardless of who’s in office.
What path is that?
 

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Biden was dead in the water when he ran the first time as well if I recall correctly. Then Obama formed DNC Voltron to propel him to victory. I don't believe that Obama necessarily thought Biden was great candidate. But the Hilary shyt got to him and Biden losing would be a sort repudiation of the Obama political machine.
I don’t think it’s the Obama machine, I’m sure Obama probably had different ideas of how shyt should go but he got to follow orders, they all essentially the same team, the same people who forced Hillary into the spot forced Biden into the spot, and it only worked initially cause covid happened
 

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I don’t think it’s the Obama machine, I’m sure Obama probably had different ideas of how shyt should go but he got to follow orders, they all essentially the same team, the same people who forced Hillary into the spot forced Biden into the spot, and it only worked initially cause covid happened
I don't think Hilary had to be forced into anything. She felt it was her turn.
 

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Biden was never dead in the water, because he always had big name recognition as the VP for 8 years, of the most popular democrat of all time. the way we run primaries is stupid; most of the states should just all vote at once, to get an actual picture of the country

and Biden was the right choice in 2020; he won the election for the same reason obama picked him in the first place. the failure was allowing him to run again, which was fukking insane :snoop:

2024 goes SO DIFFERENTLY if the dems have a real, open primary with fresh candidates, contrasted with R's coronating trump again :snoop:
2020 is some flukey shyt, I don’t think it’s appropriate to point to 2020 and say, “Biden was the right choice”, he won cause people wanted change from Covid, anybody would’ve lost that election if they was in president during Covid

Like when you speak on 20 it should always be a * on that shyt
 

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I don't think Hilary had to be forced into anything. She felt it was her turn.
Well she felt like that cause she had the big dogs backing her fully, she would’ve gotten Obama out the paint back in 08 if it was up to her but her backers saw the bigger picture
 

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Downsizing, the baby boomers climbing Olympus for us.
What do you mean by climbing Olympus

But I agree with the overall point that they been working through a plan, the public just don’t realize it yet
 
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