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Honestly, I think Obama did the very best he could and he WOULD have governed a little more to the left if people would have turned out in 2010. That was a disaster and we've never recovered from it. People got complacent and the bigotry ran wild like Hogan in '84.

Also, to the people saying Obama should say fukk the police. He CAN'T do that. There would be riots breaking out all over the nation, it would even put his family at risk. He has to play both sides in public but if you read between the lines he is definitely HURT by these shootings. I have no doubt about that. He's tried to do things but he's had no compromise from a republican congress at all.

We are lucky that he even said the things about the Trayvon situation etc.. that he did because no white president would have EVER even done that much..

We will miss the fukk outta Obama when he's gone, trust me. It's partially the lefts fault for real, we needed a big turnout in 2010 and didn't get it.
Sorry, I disagree and I think you're totally offbase with your assesment of obama...

I can't believe you said we're "lucky" he said the things about trayvon. What exactly did he say besides if he had a son he would look like trayvon and guess what, he got crucified by the media for that comment. Did you forget his stupid beer summit as well?

Understand I'm NOT anti-obama but I wish black folks get this illusion out of their mind that this guy in private is unapologetically black. He's more bill cosby Esq meaning he feels blacks folks should stop complaining and pull ourselves up by our shoestraps. He said so himself.

Nobody is saying he should say fukk police, but until himself as sitting president and all of these other famous people actually start calling for police reform rather than straddling the fence and simply saying "BLM" because that term alone doesnt mean shyt with no action.

Two weeks ago my brother went to 5 funerals, I told him & other cops that they should get police unions around the country to call out these racist rogue cops but that blue wall of silence runs deep.

I dont wanna hear shyt from "community organizer, FORMER president obama" next year about what blacks folks need to do because he held office for 8 years and we saw illegals, mexicans, and homsexuals get so many things they wanted.

We still blindly support him but everyone will be going ham next year saying hillary or trump are ignoring us as a people when the black president did much of the same out of fear that whites will say he's showing favortism.
 

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You think trump ahead in the polls now is huge or is it too early and in the end Hillary will win?

They usually say the polls don't mean much till around later August?
 

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You think trump ahead in the polls now is huge or is it too early and in the end Hillary will win?

They usually say the polls don't mean much till around later August?
Polls don't matter until October to be honest.

Also you need to look at polls in a long term period before it means anything substantial. You have no way of knowing if a poll that comes out today is simply an outlier in relation to the overall trend. At this point, Trump's leads in the polls are statistically significant but at the same time, its too early and you honestly don't know what will happen in November based on what you see today. Also Trump has maintained a lead for only a relatively short period of time, about a week.

Things change and the public has a surprisingly short term memory. Some gaffe "that people swear is going to sink someone's campaign" today is more than likely going to be forgotten or have no effect a month from now unless they were caught being a pedo or something.
 

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No, Bernie, the DNC Didn’t Lose the Midterms
By Ed KilgoreFollow @ed_kilgore5article

Nestled in a Wall Street Journal article on Bernie Sanders's post-election plans was this nugget from the Vermont senator:

Mr. Sanders cast the DNC as an inept operation that has failed to inspire people to vote, resulting in large Democratic losses in years when the president is not on the ballot.

He said the DNC needs new “leadership and a new chair that would lead the process of transforming the Democratic Party.”



Now, Bernie Sanders has every reason in the world to think bad thoughts and say negative things about the DNC. And it's entirely possible, even likely, that the party committee has not covered itself in glory during the Obama years.

But to blame the DNC for poor Democratic turnout in recent non-presidential elections is really unfair.

Truth is (or so I see it, as the author of a book on the 2014 elections) Bernie's got it a bit backwards. What's happened since 2008 is that the young and minority voters who almost never vote proportionately in non-presidential elections have become disproportionately Democratic, even as the older and whiter voters most likely to show up in midterm and off-year elections have become disproportionately Republican. This had made non-presidential years a struggle for Democrats independently of other factors. Then you can add in 1) the "exposure" of Democrats to big 2010 losses, thanks to their own 2006 and 2008 landslides, 2) the almost invariable losses the party controlling the White House usually suffers, a pattern that intensifies in second-term midterms like 2014; and 3) the additional 2014 gains the 2010 victories gave the GOP via control of redistricting.

It would have been nice if the DNC had found better ways to counter these problems, of course. The leading edge of the Democratic effort to boost turnout was the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee's Bannock Street Project, which actually showed some results — just not enough results to matter in most close Senate races.

Perhaps "inspiration" was what was lacking for Democrats in 2010 and 2014, or maybe it was something more prosaic like economic and psychological fundamentals. In any event, a new crew at the DNC is not going to solve it overnight. That's worth thinking about, because if Hillary Clinton does win in November, the next non-presidential election, in 2018, will probably be another bad one for Democrats (a third-term midterm being worse than a second for the White House party, along with an extremely pro-Republican Senate landscape). That's barring a "revolution," of course


No, Bernie, the DNC Didn’t Lose the Midterms
 

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They had a midget and paraplegic out there. A tranny is damn near normal now :pachaha:
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but until himself as sitting president and all of these other famous people actually start calling for police reform rather than straddling the fence and.

He has done that, he's said publicly that there is an issue and it needs to be addressed but if you are in his chair with a republican congress and a tight election and staring in the face of this nationalist/populist Trump movement and trying to secure this election, you have to be very careful..

Obama is playing the long game. If 2010 had a better result who knows. The fact that you are completely disregarding that.. Yeah, he needs Clinton to win this because that's the only way his visions can be fulfilled. And I'm not talking about her doing anything, I'm talking about holding down the office with someone who won't destroy the work he's put in.

If Trump is elected, these past 8 years are going away, any amount of progress is being reversed.
 
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