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Just saw some people point this out on twitter :

Everytime tonight someone mentioned racism, systemic or otherwise, it's always immediately followed up by some sort of retort in favor of police.

So basically, they are treating police officers as though they are some disenfranchised group. This is a "war" on "equal footing" and "both sides" are responsible.

Load of horse shyt.

No way am I voting for that nonsense that I saw tonight. A cop memorial, two days after Freddy Grays murderers are let off (Did anyone even mention his name tonight?) These people are gonna keep on letting black people get murdered out here.
 

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This is why I rode with Bernie and why I can give Trump some props they are the only 2 candidates I have ever seen in my life that have the balls to take on the machine and they are being crucified for it. Bernie got booed in the Senate and he was cheated in the primary. He will also be ostracized by the democrats going forward. Trump is getting lit up from all sides everynight by elitist comedian cacs (Bill Maher and Samantha Bee) killed by democratic elites (Biden, Bill Clinton, Kaine) and mocked by the aristocratic media (Maddow, Matthews, Cooper). Most of it is because he says and does some dumb shyt but a lot of it has to do with the threat he poses to the establishment.

Meanwhile we got our well trained brainwashed (stephens from Django) cats in here hollering for an old rich white woman who freely admits she hasnt driven a car since the 90's, and demands white pillows in her trailer whenever she gives a speech at 250,000 a pop.
The best thing Trump has done this election cycle is fool idiots like this into believing he's anti-establishment. Oh and a dove. :mjlol:
 

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I don't know the solution but I'll tell you this. I feel like it's in black americans best interests to slow down the influx of immigrants, not stand side by side and support people that would spit in a black man's face in their own country.

I think it's in black citizens best interest to start making crony politicians actually earn our vote. I don't mean start speaking about black issues during the campaign trail, then 8 years of being completely ignored while gays, transgendered, illegal immigrants, and WHITE woman, all get considerable legislation passed that exclusively benifit them.

Honestly it's too late at this point, in another 10-20 years our vote won't mean shyt and they won't even bother to ponder to us, just like the Republicans.what demands did we make while our vote means something? What demands were followed through? Non, we will spend the rest of our political relevance voting like sheep.
things have all ways been bad for blacks this aint nothing new. and i knew you didnt have an answer i was just wondering why youre acting like trump is a better option. i have no problems voting repub especially because i dont like hilary or bernie but hes a terrible person supported by terrible people so why should i empower them just to "shake up the system"?
 

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But...

Trump supports neoliberal policies

Like tax cuts, austerity, deregulation

But then he supports the New Deal programs and says he won't touch them... even advocates rebuilding America's infrastructure..

With no way to pay for them... just load on $20T more debt :blessed:

Repubs with the WH won't be talking about fiscal conservative BS
Trump doesn't support the illegal immigration that is buoying corporate profits while dragging down the standard of living and wages of the working class. He doesn't support handing over even more sovereignty to the corporatocracy and foreign adjudicating bodies like TPP does. He says America doesn't have to just bend over and take outsourcing in the ass because of "civil discourse". He supports austerity in some measures, but he has advocated for an expansion in government programs in others. His tax cuts are probably the one policy I don't quite square away. It says the breaks will be paid for through eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the wealthy and the loopholes for corporations put in place by special interests, but every analysis i've seen says it blows a crater in the budget, so :patrice:. I think he believes that the shock to America's moribund economy that his other policies will cause will be enough to change the entire nature of the game, but I'm not sold on that yet. Either way, if Clinton will face gridlocked opposition for her tax plan, there is simply no way in hell a President Trump would get this plan through Congress.

Listen, we're living in a neoliberal world. It's the reigning ideology. Trump isn't a communist, but he's advocating for the most radical reimagining of America's socio-economic potential in a long time. There is a clear and meaningful distinction between the two candidates when it comes to acquiescence to neoliberal orthodoxy. Hillary is literally the personification of neoliberalism.

This is our neoliberal nightmare: Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and why the market and the wealthy win every time
 
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The fact that he walked it back...doesn't mean he didn't say it:mjlol:

And she is easily going to get it to stick...because she has video of him saying it :mjlol:

Have you not been listening to Dems...they spent all night talking about Trump wanting to ban muslims and mexicans...they did not spend any time at all saying trump wants to suspend immigration:mjlol:
...what? I didn't say he never said it, I just said it's no longer his position on the matter. So when the Dems try and tell you that he still wants to ban all muslims from entering the United States, it's a lie. Of course they're not going to attack his current position, because it's much more palatable than his outdated one. They also tried it with the "Trump wants to lower the minimum wage, he thinks wages are too high" line. Been a lie for almost a year. The Dems spent the whole convention talking about things Trump said when his campaign started instead of the things he's been saying since. But if Hillary wants to play the "flip flop game", I doubt Trump will have a problem with that.

 

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:mjlol: No serious economist thinks protectionism is a good idea.
Again, this is what "serious" economic thinking has gotten us:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/collapse-of-the-standard-of-living-in-the-usa/18829
A Long, Steep Drop for Americans' Standard of Living
http://www.globalresearch.ca/globalization-creates-unemployment-american-job-loss-is-permanent/21656
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-of...an-jobs-a-greater-threat-than-terrorism/18725

Many economic models are now predicting another tectonic crash within the next few years. Anyone who tells you that the only "serious" way to deal with this problem is to continue the policies that got us into this problem in the first place is a fed.
 

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A lot of y'all can't seem to comprehend that no matter who wins this horseshyt election your life will NOT improve...The very best we can hope for is the same standard of living for the next 4 years...Trump isn't going to flip the country upside down with executive orders...We have a checks and balances system for reason...

That said, voting Trump is just as idiotic as investing with Bernie Madoff and voting for Shillary...

The ONLY real change in this election is jump starting a third party...Stop listening to the establishment owned main stream media that's telling you voting for a third is a wasted vote...

You want to rebel against establishment cronies? You want a revolution?

Vote third party...

15% of the vote will make the democrooks and rethuglicans shyt themselves...
 

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Again, this is what "serious" economic thinking has gotten us:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/collapse-of-the-standard-of-living-in-the-usa/18829
A Long, Steep Drop for Americans' Standard of Living
http://www.globalresearch.ca/globalization-creates-unemployment-american-job-loss-is-permanent/21656
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-of...an-jobs-a-greater-threat-than-terrorism/18725

Many economic models are now predicting another tectonic crash within the next few years. Anyone who tells you that the only "serious" way to deal with this problem is to continue the policies that got us into this problem in the first place is a fed.
Indicting the status quo is not a positive argument for the case we should isolate ourselves with tariffs on imports and quotas. I'm not sure why you think protectionism would rejuvenate the middle class.

Report: Trump tariffs would be 'catastrophic' for poor

Also your article shytted on Drumpf's claims about China's currency manipulation.
 

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I've never said that Republicans are a better option.

I'm just trying to enlighten you nikkas crying tears of joy for the pondering to these illegal immigrants. And @ThreeLetterAgency since he thinks all this pondering is just to get elected.

You think the problems that face black americans are ignored now? Just wait till our vote isn't needed to win an election.
Its not really needed now bro...its all about women/subgroups. The dems realize how we vote for our race, they know we are the ones who showed up to get obama elected and how many of us forgot to vote in the midterms 2 and 4 years later (esp 2012...thats when they got control of the house/senate). I'm ok with not needing to be pandered to for decades. We need to get our own communities in order now and blend with the rest of the country more thoroughly. It gives us a more native/diverse appeal imo to not have to be pandered to in every damn election. There is still some but by and far, the theme is togetherness and not black only for once. Im ok with this...
 
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