Official 2020 Iowa Caucus Thread

[Skeptic]

Watching liberals sneak in gay jabs at Pete on Twitter is

I guess all that sexuality is irrelevant talk was all bullshyt.

Right? Because liberals are this monolithic group and their individual ideologies don't differ at all.

 

[duncanthetall]

What exactly have his supporters done? I am genuinely curious because this is a left field hot take.

They’re pearl clutching and behaving better than us which is supposed to mean something. I saw some Warren supporters on twitter all aghast at some shyt the Chapo guys were saying. How are these people supposed to stand up to Trump? Do they know how few people that nice shyt appeals to still? People are scared and worried. Civility is something that can be overlooked

 

[Json]

If you're "giving Bootyjudge a second look" then you were never a policy minded progressive to begin with because Butti gang has no policy proposals out there and is running off of cliches, youth, and looks.

I called him Bootyjudge.You really think I care to support him?

Thanks for making my point.


This reminds me of when a team is an underdog one season then when put in a view of front runner for the championship, they try and keep the same energy of underdog and annoy people giving them respect.

 

[the kid]

What exactly have his supporters done? I am genuinely curious because this is a left field hot take.

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For example. This has gone on since Sanders began running for president. Insulting people you will eventually need as allies doesn’t make sense in the long run. Sh!t, even if he wins the nomination and beats Trump, how do you govern and get your agenda passed when people held their nose and voted for you?[/QUOTE]

 

[acri1]

And therein lies why you’re at odds with so many. You’re already in beat Trump mode and everyone else is still advocating for their preferred candidate. You’ve detached yourself from the process. The entire world is calling out Iowa, and saying nothing doesn’t make you look strong. If anything, it makes you look weak to progressives who have seen Republicans do fukk shyt and Democrats try to “adult” the situation to no avail.

At this point beating Trump is more important than which Democrat wins.

Like you said, the entire world is already calling out Iowa and their process will already be under heavy scrutiny from this point on. It's already acknowledged by everybody that their process is shyt and helped Buttigeg to the detriment of most other candidates. Going on about conspiracies at this point isn't helpful.

 

[Kenny West]

I'm all for pulling for your candidate and highlighting the differences in why your pulling for 1 instead of another, but I don't understand why the animosity over the followers.

I can comprehend the frustration over those willing to torpedo the election if they don't get their candidate but not over the other pettiness.

There's too much at stake to be hardline divided over the smallest things. No one get 100% of what they want. Be willing to accept 70-80% or get nothing at all.

How did this whole profiling of supporters thing even start? Its truly something that feels plucked from the brain of a pompous white woman which makes sense because bernie bros and trump deplorables both came from the Hilary campaign.

Prior to that I never heard about bill clinton guys, bush bros, kerry followers, mccain followers etc. People supported who they supported and thats that

Maybe this is contributes to the partisan/divisive politics. Instead of attacking ideas folks profile and attack voters causing them to react by digging in their heels. Its especially unhelpful when its among people in the same party.

But here we are

 

[No1]

I mean, if you’re going to use the internet as proxy then I can apply this to any candidate with young supporters. Something like 30 percent of Bernie support is people under 30 who are good at the internet. That shyt doesn’t surprise me. The average Bernie supporter knocking on doors is someone with hippie tendencies - I haven’t seen any bothered by them in person.

 

[storyteller]

Alot of Warren supporters are playing the sit back and wait game but this is gonna be one of those election where you're gonna have to hit these streets. The Democrat establishment don't love her either in she needs her supporters to be just as passionate as anyone else. Even Hillary had some go hards. By all accounts she had as big an operation in Iowa as anyone and could only pull 3rd and she's sitting in third in all these recent polls.

If Bernie or even Butti or Biden pull out wins over her it's not guaranteed that people will just move to her from other candidates if there is no momentum. I don't know how people expect her to win if she has no victories going into Super Tuesday.

THIS!!! This exactly. Liz has the juice to make a run but not by being quiet and hoping things fall right. And it's not HER, she's gonna keep bodying her public appearances. But she needs the energy from her base just like any other candidate. Didn't David Brock PAY people to back Hillary and fight for her?

 

[No1]

At this point beating Trump is more important than which Democrat wins.

Like you said, the entire world is already calling out Iowa and their process will already be under heavy scrutiny from this point on. It's already acknowledged by everybody that their process is shyt and helped Buttigeg to the detriment of most other candidates. Going on about conspiracies at this point isn't helpful.

Well that’s fair. I never vouched for conspiracies but people are likely to believe those things in general. You never want to give them ammo.

 

[Json]

I truly believe the biggest weakness for Warren and her supporters is being worried about being judged. Yall once again blew a chance to call out a fiasco and how it hurt your candidate but you're worried you'll be treated like conspiracy theorists? Why? Just point at what's known...there was gross incompetence that has allowed Pete Buttigeig to claim an unwarranted victory which has bumped him to second in New Hampshire.

You really don't get why you don't call out your own team's major mistakes?

Obamacare's online rollout was a major disaster with a lot more money and R&D going into it than his app. But there's a difference between saying "we need to do more to fix things cause it's important and we promised the American people to make it work" vs " The Dems are incompentent. It's Obama's fault for not getting more Republicans to help."

Again, Bernie isn't a Dem. I know it makes it easier for his supporters to attack the DNC, Dems, and Hilary. But that double edged sword doesn't get you support from those people and it certainly won't get Republicans on your side.

 

[StatUS]

THIS!!! This exactly. Liz has the juice to make a run but not by being quiet and hoping things fall right. And it's not HER, she's gonna keep bodying her public appearances. But she needs the energy from her base just like any other candidate. Didn't David Brock PAY people to back Hillary and fight for her?

Hillary's team had paid online supporters, if that's what it takes. But she also organized the party, as we all know, to make sure she won.

I really want a Bernie and Warren final and nothing is guaranteed for Bernie especially in the south but he's moving positively. Warren got some cool endorsements but Imma speak her supporters to get with it into existence. Cause like you say if anyone can come out of this fukkery it's her.

 

[Uno Venova]

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For example. This has gone on since Sanders began running for president. Insulting people you will eventually need as allies doesn’t make sense in the long run. Sh!t, even if he wins the nomination and beats Trump, how do you govern and get your agenda passed when people held their nose and voted for you?

Insulting people how breh?

 

[DonKnock]

I called him Bootyjudge.You really think I care to support him?

Thanks for making my point.


This reminds me of when a team is an underdog one season then when put in a view of front runner for the championship, they try and keep the same energy of underdog and annoy people giving them respect.

You just said you were going to support him.

 

[Json]

Insulting people how breh?

So we going to pretend that Warren is snake thing didn't happen?

 

[Json]

You just said you were going to support him.

I said I'd give him a second look as a joke.

If i respected him, I spend 5 seconds to spell his name correctly instead of insulting his sexuality.