Official 2020 Iowa Caucus Thread

[Pressure]

I don't disagree. But I don't feel that is the main issue at play here.

I agree. This morning one of the people responsible for turning in the results talked about it.

Basically saying that training was there and people were able to download the app early and get familiar with it.

She said they did that and were able to use the system pretty well. Said they had a question they called in for but were able to fix it before needing to speak with support.

Obviously it's dangerous to place all the blame there, but it seems like an obvious miss.

Maybe there aren't enough volunteers to force them to complete the training before handing them the keys, but I find that hard to believe. At the least that should have been the working practice if nothing else.

As far as what the DNC could have done on that front, they called have called the people in charge of the precincts to remind them to install the app, set it up, and go over training prior to locking the doors at the caucuses.

Similar can be said for the IDP, but questions need to be asked why the IDP went with this product and some insight into what types of testing they performed.

Shadow really has a lot of questioned to answer because this product wasn't ready for primetime. Too many errors. Especially with one of their core functions, reporting, being the biggest cause of failure.

 

[nyknick]

All this while Liz waits quietly in the cut.

11pm last night

 

[Pressure]

I was just thinking this after my previous post but didn't want to have a stream of consciousness on here.

The fact these are past campaign staffers now being responsible and being paid to develop an app for the Democratic caucuses is an example of a revolving door of "Self-dealing" as mentioned. Not being naive in acknowledging that favors and handouts happen because of who you know but there should be a higher standard of deciding who is in charge of some a vital operation such as this. Granted, this is part speculation and I don't know enough to say that is 100% sure what happen but its not a good look.

It was inevitable. You'd need an understanding of how caucusing works and what information makes for great reporting and real time analytics for TV to build the app. You'd also need enough capital for such a specialized piece of software and then you'd need to sell it.

Most of this would have been avoided if the IDP and Shadow, Inc didn't insist on being so secretive.

People predicated they'd have failures and they did. What next though?

 

[duncanthetall]

Pretends to be shocked

Lmao. Centrists want to downplay this shyt. So so so so so so stupid. They are going to fukking hammer us all with this shyt. Jesus Christ it’s gonna get ugly. This shyt actually has legs and it goes back to goddamn Hillary.

 

[thelonious21]

The Warren G's rep hard around here. She's my number two behind Bernie, but I would like nothing more than for the race to wind up being between the two of them. Their messages are a one-two punch for me. Bernie hits the ideal and Warren makes it sound practical. I prefer Bernie's platform, but I have no doubt that Warren would be the best president of my lifetime so far should she win.

Who do you think will win?

 

[Hood Critic]

This is a pretty good article from VICE as well, sounds like they reached out to a lot of people on the ground.

The Democrats Screwed America With an App No One Asked For

 

[Hood Critic]

It was inevitable. You'd need an understanding of how caucusing works and what information makes for great reporting and real time analytics for TV to build the app. You'd also need enough capital for such a specialized piece of software and then you'd need to sell it.

Most of this would have been avoided if the IDP and Shadow, Inc didn't insist on being so secretive.

People predicated they'd have failures and they did. What next though?

I think the secrecy aspect is going to be the big takeaway from all of this, VICE also referenced the security implications in keeping the app and its creators secret in the article I posted above.

This app is an extension of our critical infrastructure, the more eyes on it the better for its security as well as holding those responsible for it, the better.

 

[StatUS]

I think the secrecy aspect is going to be the big takeaway from all of this, VICE also referenced the security implications in keeping the app and its creators secret in the article I posted above.

This app is an extension of our critical infrastructure, the more eyes on it the better for its security as well as holing those responsible for it, the better.

Not vetting this shyt is frightening for the rest of the elections this year.

 

[duncanthetall]

Nevada ditching the app thank god

 

[Pressure]

This is a pretty good article from VICE as well, sounds like they reached out to a lot of people on the ground.

The Democrats Screwed America With an App No One Asked For

If anything this episode should be a cautionary tale of what happens when there's too much money in politics.

Gerard Niemira, Shadow CEO: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

Outgunned by Trump, Democrats Call Tech Help Desk for 2020 Race

 

[nyknick]

Bernie's camp calling out Biden

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

As an outsider reading through these comments, I think you have the most realistic viewpoints and assumptions on here

Democrats really aren't helping themselves with their nomination in-fighting, progressive vs liberal bs, and then trying to copy Rethug strategies and failing cuz they don't have the same spineless attributes.

Bernie is the only person with a legitimate shot to take down Trump Same story as 2016.

which is why Sanders should be blocked.

EDIT: I'm not saying Trump should win. I don't think sanders can beat trump.

 

[FAH1223]

Nevada ditching the app thank god

 

[Pressure]

I think the secrecy aspect is going to be the big takeaway from all of this, VICE also referenced the security implications in keeping the app and its creators secret in the article I posted above.

This app is an extension of our critical infrastructure, the more eyes on it the better for its security as well as holding those responsible for it, the better.

I'm hopeful the next iteration of this type of software will be better for those specific reasons and the failure we have on display.

If there's one silver lining in this failure is we were able to shine a spotlight into where all this money is going for elections.

 

[nyknick]

They'll use a brand new app owned by John Podesta