Official 2020 Iowa Caucus Thread

[Uno Venova]

Still haven’t gotten that last 3% eh ?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

that's not why Liz didn't break through with black people, but ok

and authenticity and trust are issues for all politicians with us - but you're not black so i wouldn't expect you to understand - the reason why ADOS/both sides movements have legs


edit: this is actually hilarious, that of all groups, you think black people have any real level of trust in any arm of government or politicians

All of a sudden I’m not black now, and I don’t understand black voters but you’re surprised we didn’t rally for a 60 year old white woman who says she’s native American and was a Republican til she was 46.

Then you pivot to a ridiculous logical fallacy conflating black peoples’ trust in Liz Warren as a person with black peoples’ trust of institutions of government.

Youza a birdbrain. Black people were never fukking with Liz and it a was obvious...that was just you Amy and Chad at work.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

None of them really have any personality whatsoever. Don’t really put themselves out there for fear of ruffling feathers. AOC, Tlaib, and Omar are constantly LOOOOOOOOOOOOUD. They are known enemies of Trump and they ALL scream support for Bernie. Pressley is known but she’s the most conservative of all of them easily. Does Trump even know she exists? And honestly I don’t even know who else is on Warren’s team. They make no noise.

What is this based on exactly?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

All of a sudden I’m not black now, and I don’t understand black voters but you’re surprised we didn’t rally for a 60 year old white woman who says she’s native American and was a Republican til she was 46.

Then you pivot to a ridiculous logical fallacy conflating black peoples’ trust in Liz Warren as a person with black peoples’ trust of institutions of government.

Youza a birdbrain. Black people were never fukking with Liz and it a was obvious...that was just you Amy and Chad at work.

People have said you're not black, if you are, then ok. You should know it's not trust and authenticity that drive black support, familiarity is the driver. And how did i pivot? Since when is adding something + the subject at hand a pivot...they are interlocked, government + politicians.

And I admitted she didn't catch on with black people while also espousing a reason she should've, so wtf are you arguing?

 

[Kenny West]

that's not why Liz didn't break through with black people, but ok

and authenticity and trust are issues for all politicians with us - but you're not black so i wouldn't expect you to understand - the reason why ADOS/both sides movements have legs

We, ADOS wouldn't trust someone who used a one drop rule to front as a native american for benefits off a droplet of native blood.

As chairman of team #bothsides, a canidate unafraid to criticize the machinations on both wings while not assimilating themselves into the swamp is ideal. If only there were such a candidate, perhaps people would trust them

New Poll Shows Bernie The Most Trusted Candidate On EVERY Major Issue - The Ring of Fire Network

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

We, ADOS wouldn't trust someone who used a one drop rule to front as a native american for benefits off a droplet of native blood.

As chairman of team #bothsides, a canidate unafraid to criticize the machinations on both wings while not assimilating themselves into the swamp is ideal. If only there were such a candidate, perhaps people would trust them

New Poll Shows Bernie The Most Trusted Candidate On EVERY Major Issue - The Ring of Fire Network

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[Dusty Bake Activate]

People have said you're not black, if you are, then ok. You should know it's not trust and authenticity that drive black support, familiarity is the driver. And how did i pivot? Since when is adding something + the subject at hand a pivot...they are interlocked, government + politicians.

And I admitted she didn't catch on with black people while also espousing a reason she should've, so wtf are you arguing?

I don’t think her lack of catching on with black voters was an issue unique to black voters with regard to her.

She didn’t seem to break through with anyone outside her affluent white liberal base. She has an authenticity and trust deficit with voters that isn’t race-specific.

Authenticity is a driver of all support. No demographic wants to vote for someone they see as fake and wishy-washy.

 

[Serious]

I don’t think her lack of catching on with black voters was an issue unique to black voters with regard to her.

She didn’t seem to break through with anyone outside her affluent white liberal base. She has an authenticity and trust deficit with voters that isn’t race-specific.

So basically she just comes off as a limousine liberal.

Democrats just don't learn.

At least trump knows how to appeal to his base @DEAD7

 

[Red Shield]

We don’t have time for Pinky Raised Politics from the Warren coalition. Y’all are mostly reasonable people and you’ll get behind Bernie if he wins the nom anyways, so it doesn’t really matter. Because that’s what nice people do. They fall in line. Thanks for that.

well damn

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I don’t think her lack of catching on with black voters was an issue unique to black voters with regard to her.

She didn’t seem to break through with anyone outside her affluent white liberal base. She has an authenticity and trust deficit with voters that isn’t race-specific.

i'm not other races nor was this conversation about other races so...

lastly, yall like to overlook the elephant in the room being "electability" - code for white male. it's what put biden in a strong position, makes bernie appealing to working class white men, what launched butti and what gave bloomberg the audacity to jump in. liz started behind the mark in both name recognition and not being the right gender for this cycle (or any cycle). lots of reasons to point to outside of trust and authenticity...two words only that only lawyers and salesmen are less associated to than politicians

 

[Kenny West]

ctrl + f that article "black" "African American"

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Ha, good one

Majority of Black Voters Say They Could Vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Election

looks like authenticity is helping him out with black voters. Where Liz at?

Are Black Voters Turning On Biden? Bernie’s Support Surges In The Polls

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Ha, good one

Majority of Black Voters Say They Could Vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 Election

looks like authenticity is helping him out with black voters. Where Liz at?

Are Black Voters Turning On Biden? Bernie’s Support Surges In The Polls

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[Dusty Bake Activate]

i'm not other races nor was this conversation about other races so...

lastly, yall like to overlook the elephant in the room being "electability" - code for white male. it's what put biden in a strong position, makes bernie appealing to working class white men, what launched butti and what gave bloomberg the audacity to jump in. liz started behind the mark in both name recognition and not being the right gender for this cycle (or any cycle). lots of reasons to point to outside of trust and authenticity...two words only that only lawyers and salesmen are less associated to than politicians

Maybe Liz should’ve tailored her message more toward solidarity with the working poor and middle class and less about twitter pronouns, transgender crusades, Fox News, and talk of wearing a Planned Parenthood scarf on inauguration.

That aside, there was really no reason for any working class person with progressive politics to vote for Liz while Bernie was in the race. Pretty much anything positive you can say about Liz, Bernie is just more of that.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Kenny West]

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lol

They dont trust him but they'll vote for him? someone is missing the forest for the trees.

You are a whole hater, just dont let the red turn you into nap