Official 2025-2026 Detroit Lions Thread.

Bboystyle

FIRE MATT LAFLEUR
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
48,572
Reputation
6,140
Daps
81,822
Reppin
So. Cal
And if we signed him early you'd be complaining that we didn't wait and see how he recovered from the injury lol. From Hutch's perspective it made the most sense not to sign until everyone (Garrett, Watt, Parsons, etc) got paid. I know I assumed Jerry was gonna cave at the last minute and give Parsons 45mil per year. Instead he got 47min from the Packers lol.

I guess on the plus side without Kenny Clark...Gibbs and Monty gonna hit 200 yards on these dudes next weekend lol.
:mjlol:
 

djthegreat88

Superstar
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
6,118
Reputation
211
Daps
19,927
Reppin
Flint, MI
Yall tripping. Paying two edge rushers damn near $100 mil a year is ridiculous. Lions are already paying franchise money to Sewell, Goff, and ARSB. Sucks he went to Packers but whatever.

Philly got away with finessing cap so long because Hurts was on that small contract.

Trading for Parsons or Hendrickson would have crippled Lions cap. It was never realistic

Lions are suffering from drafting so well under Holmes. That all these guys deserve new big contracts. Gibbs, Laporta, Branch will probably be highest paid at their position when they reup
 

IrateMastermind

All Star
Supporter
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
5,474
Reputation
1,160
Daps
10,404
Yall tripping. Paying two edge rushers damn near $100 mil a year is ridiculous. Lions are already paying franchise money to Sewell, Goff, and ARSB. Sucks he went to Packers but whatever.

Philly got away with finessing cap so long because Hurts was on that small contract.

Trading for Parsons or Hendrickson would have crippled Lions cap. It was never realistic

Lions are suffering from drafting so well under Holmes. That all these guys deserve new big contracts. Gibbs, Laporta, Branch will probably be highest paid at their position when they reup
I’ve been wanting all leagues to reward teams for drafting well.

They should reduce the overall cap hit for players when they resign.

Something like a 20% reduction to the cap number. The NBA should’ve implement something like this on top of all the other changes
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
48,781
Reputation
4,173
Daps
73,461
Reppin
Michigan
Yall tripping. Paying two edge rushers damn near $100 mil a year is ridiculous. Lions are already paying franchise money to Sewell, Goff, and ARSB. Sucks he went to Packers but whatever.

Philly got away with finessing cap so long because Hurts was on that small contract.

Trading for Parsons or Hendrickson would have crippled Lions cap. It was never realistic

Lions are suffering from drafting so well under Holmes. That all these guys deserve new big contracts. Gibbs, Laporta, Branch will probably be highest paid at their position when they reup
Goff is not good enough to carry the Lions to a SB win. He could be the QB on a team that wins a SB but he's not likely gonna be the main reason. They paying him all that money and he's a B tier QB at best so how do they overcome that?

At this point the Lions depend on Goff to win in the playoffs almost entirely. With San Fran and Washington when Goff underperformed the team couldn't overcome it.
 

djthegreat88

Superstar
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
6,118
Reputation
211
Daps
19,927
Reppin
Flint, MI
Goff is not good enough to carry the Lions to a SB win. He could be the QB on a team that wins a SB but he's not likely gonna be the main reason. They paying him all that money and he's a B tier QB at best so how do they overcome that?

At this point the Lions depend on Goff to win in the playoffs almost entirely. With San Fran and Washington when Goff underperformed the team couldn't overcome it.
Goff is paid the going rate for QBs. It’s never about who is the best. Its just about who next to get paid. In a couple years his contract will be middle of the pack. Goff shyt the bed in playoffs but he wasn’t the reason they were eliminated last two years. Lions scored 31 points at home in a playoff game. That should be more than enough to win. The defense was historically injured and it showed in playoffs. And every phase of team fell apart against SF year before.
 

Piff Perkins

Veteran
Joined
May 29, 2012
Messages
56,259
Reputation
21,702
Daps
306,973
Goff is not good enough to carry the Lions to a SB win. He could be the QB on a team that wins a SB but he's not likely gonna be the main reason. They paying him all that money and he's a B tier QB at best so how do they overcome that?

At this point the Lions depend on Goff to win in the playoffs almost entirely. With San Fran and Washington when Goff underperformed the team couldn't overcome it.

Goff was good enough to win the SB last season. The problem was the defense got nuked by injuries. He wasn't the reason we lost in SF either. If Josh Reynolds catches that pass (which was in his hands) we win that game, most likely. Add in a bad Gibbs fumble and there you have it. Washington game...only person I blame for that is Ben Johnson.

The funny thing about the Parsons handwringing is that they now have one elite edge rusher and some solid guys behind him. Sound familiar? Levi had as many pressures as Rashan Gary last season. So did Alim, despite missing multiple games. If you want to focus on rushers, Mohammad played half of the games Gary did and was on pace to match his output in pressures, hurries, and sacks. Would I rather have Zadarius right now? Yes, I'm not stupid. But I think the pass rush is going to be good this season.
 

Regular_P

Just end the season.
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
83,499
Reputation
11,094
Daps
224,577
Goff was good enough to win the SB last season. The problem was the defense got nuked by injuries. He wasn't the reason we lost in SF either. If Josh Reynolds catches that pass (which was in his hands) we win that game, most likely. Add in a bad Gibbs fumble and there you have it. Washington game...only person I blame for that is Ben Johnson.

The funny thing about the Parsons handwringing is that they now have one elite edge rusher and some solid guys behind him. Sound familiar? Levi had as many pressures as Rashan Gary last season. So did Alim, despite missing multiple games. If you want to focus on rushers, Mohammad played half of the games Gary did and was on pace to match his output in pressures, hurries, and sacks. Would I rather have Zadarius right now? Yes, I'm not stupid. But I think the pass rush is going to be good this season.
Green Bay had more sacks than the Lions last year and now they added Parsons.
 

Regular_P

Just end the season.
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
83,499
Reputation
11,094
Daps
224,577
Smith just isn’t gonna happen. Sucks.
That means Alim McNeil's 3.5 sacks is the second most from last year's team that is returning and we don't know when he'll play this season.

I don't understand how anyone can downplay the pass rush concerns on this team when Holmes did nothing to address it. Yes, Hutch will do a lot of heavy lifting but they are 100% reliant on him.
 

Bboystyle

FIRE MATT LAFLEUR
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
48,572
Reputation
6,140
Daps
81,822
Reppin
So. Cal
Green Bay had more sacks than the Lions last year and now they added Parsons.
Ya boy @Piff Perkins is a cluleless idiot. He also said Packers have a weak run defense when they were ranked 7th. Packers have a top 10 defense in every defense category except passing which they ranked 13th. Adding Parsons makes them even more dangerous.
 

dh86

Superstar
Joined
Jun 4, 2013
Messages
25,219
Reputation
1,086
Daps
56,881
Reppin
Detroit
Goff was good enough to win the SB last season. The problem was the defense got nuked by injuries. He wasn't the reason we lost in SF either. If Josh Reynolds catches that pass (which was in his hands) we win that game, most likely. Add in a bad Gibbs fumble and there you have it. Washington game...only person I blame for that is Ben Johnson.

The funny thing about the Parsons handwringing is that they now have one elite edge rusher and some solid guys behind him. Sound familiar? Levi had as many pressures as Rashan Gary last season. So did Alim, despite missing multiple games. If you want to focus on rushers, Mohammad played half of the games Gary did and was on pace to match his output in pressures, hurries, and sacks. Would I rather have Zadarius right now? Yes, I'm not stupid. But I think the pass rush is going to be good this season.

Having the 7th or 8th best QB out of 8 every time we reach the divisional round is an uphill battle as it is. Doubly so when you no longer have a top 5 offensive line. That’s gone now. For a team to win the Super Bowl with someone like Goff, you gotta stack the deck like the Rams did for Stafford. Lions didn’t get better in the offseason and when you don’t get better, you just got worse.
 

winb83

52 Years Young
Supporter
Joined
May 28, 2012
Messages
48,781
Reputation
4,173
Daps
73,461
Reppin
Michigan
Having the 7th or 8th best QB out of 8 every time we reach the divisional round is an uphill battle as it is. Doubly so when you no longer have a top 5 offensive line. That’s gone now. For a team to win the Super Bowl with someone like Goff, you gotta stack the deck like the Rams did for Stafford. Lions didn’t get better in the offseason and when you don’t get better, you just got worse.
I feel like Goff is close to Stafford level. Good enough to be a SB winner but not good enough to carry you to a SB win. Every now and then he puts up a real stinker of a game that could sink you in the playoffs. Goff does have a better run game than most of the good enough to carry you to a SB win level QBs outside of Lamar Jackson.

Holmes is gonna have to go all in like the Rams did to win a SB future cap implications be damned future draft picks be damned and he doesn't seem to want to do that. If he continues to take his time he will continue to have to pay these young talented players he finds and it will only make it harder. The teams success causes them to lose pieces and possibly decline.
 

Piff Perkins

Veteran
Joined
May 29, 2012
Messages
56,259
Reputation
21,702
Daps
306,973
Having the 7th or 8th best QB out of 8 every time we reach the divisional round is an uphill battle as it is. Doubly so when you no longer have a top 5 offensive line. That’s gone now. For a team to win the Super Bowl with someone like Goff, you gotta stack the deck like the Rams did for Stafford. Lions didn’t get better in the offseason and when you don’t get better, you just got worse.

Nobody on this forum thought Hurts was a top 10 QB last season and guess how that turned out. This team was good enough to win the SB if moderately healthy last year. We had the offense. We had a top 10 defense. And I'd argue we got better at CB with DJ Reed, who is not a walking injury report like Carlton Davis. I expect Terrion to be better in year two. My only real concern about this team is the interior o-line, specifically center. I think Mahogany will be great and the rookie will be fine...but I'm concerned about Glasgow. We will see. He played well in the joint practices.

@Regular_P Are you trolling? They only had 8 more sacks than us in a year where our two starting pass rushers didn't play the majority of the season and our best interior rusher (Alim) missed multiple games lmao. Surely you see the flaw in your argument here. Yes, Parsons makes GB better. But given that we beat them twice without our best defensive player I'm not worried. Add in the fact that Clark gave us hell for years and is now gone, plus we have our injured guys back...I feel good. And the good thing about this? It's game one. Zero injury excuses. If I'm wrong @Bboystyle will be on my ass. BTW I said your run defense will be worse without Clark. I didn't deny it was good last season (with Clark). See you on Sunday.
 

djthegreat88

Superstar
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
6,118
Reputation
211
Daps
19,927
Reppin
Flint, MI
Not understanding all this Packers hype. Even before the Parsons trade they are being predicted to be better than Lions based on nothing. They were 1-5 in division last year

WR core still not good, Unless they think Golden is a day one superstar. Jacobs a workhorse but a year older. RBs fall off over night generally. Love is still an INT machine. Lafluer has not done well against Campbell in his career. Campbell 6-2 vs GB and 3-0 in lambeau

Packers added Parsons but we are getting Hutchinson back who missed both GB games last year. Davenport healthy. Kenny Clark has always played well against Lions. Packers small as hell up the middle now. Gibbs and Montgomery gonna eat. Parsons a monster pass rusher but too light to hold up in run game

Lions only worry is the oline play. Glasgow is biggest question mark but he's a much better Center than Guard. Mahogany looked like stud last year whenever he played. Ratledge has been praised throughout camp. Sewell one of the best but Decker getting up there in age. No clue how good they will still be

Ben Johnson being gone will be biggest upgrade. Boy genius coached way too cute. No reason for the tricky shyt when your offense is as stacked as Lions were. And While AG was a great leader, his in game coaching was suspect. Hopefully Shepperd imprints his own identity on defense.

Prediction
Lions 35
Packers 14
 
Top