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Bottom line. They knew republicans would never cave especially admitting to a lost. democrats used it as a way to sway the voters since majority of the blame has been on republicans. Even the president stated republicans got destroyed Because of the shutdown. Democrats got what they wanted and said ok, let’s stop people from eating and go back to trying to make a balanced deal with hope. Or shut it down again next time and hoping republicans realize the back lash from this one that they may not want to deal with again On the next one knowing next time democrats will stick to the script.
 

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So even in a shutdown caused by the Republicans, who controls both houses of Congress and the Presidency you are still finding a way to blame the Democrats.

I'm not wanting to blame them. I actually like the fact that they fought for this long. It's just unfortunate that this battle wasn't winnable for them.
 

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So even in a shutdown caused by the Republicans, who controls both houses of Congress and the Presidency you are still finding a way to blame the Democrats.
if it was The Republican Shutdown, then why are you mad that it's over :unimpressed: that doesn't make any sense
 

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I'm not wanting to blame them. I actually like the fact that they fought for this long. It's just unfortunate that this battle wasn't winnable for them.
yep. the Dems let the "do something" calls get to them, and shut it down, to try to get something that doesn't exist yet. and Republicans were never gonna let Dems bully them into just giving them whatever ACA funding level they wanted, in front of the entire country

in hindsight, it shouldn't have happened at all. it was a bad move :yeshrug:
 

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if it was The Republican Shutdown, then why are you mad that it's over :unimpressed: that doesn't make any sense
I am not mad about anything. The fact that the shutdown may end doesn't change anything, because king mcfuggup is just going to set another fire somewhere else. Chaos is that fool's middle name and we are just off to the next arson.
 

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I am not mad about anything. The fact that the shutdown may end doesn't change anything, because king mcfuggup is just going set another commit arson somewhere else. Chaos is that fool's middle name and we are just off to the next arson.
OK, but i'm just pointing out that it was not "a republican shutdown"

if it was republicans who shut down the government; how could democrats get mad that the shutdown is ending :dead:


this fight is gonna happen again, and Dems need to get that narrative straight. that means taking pride in what you're fighting for, if YOU shut it down
 

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OK, but i'm just pointing out that it was not "a republican shutdown"

if it was republicans who shut down the government; how could democrats get mad that the shutdown is ending :dead:

this fight is gonna happen again, and Dems need to get that narrative straight. that means taking pride in what you're fighting for, if YOU shut it down
It was a Republican shutdown. They refused to extend credits on the ACA which will increase healthcare premiums for millions of Americans. They can bail out Argentina but fugg America. Those fuggtards can cut billions of taxes for the rich but don't give a fugg about working Americans.
 

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then why are Democrats mad that it's over? :dead: that doesn't make any sense

Dems shut it down, to try to extract more money, since they're out of power. they failed. end of story
I don't know why any of them are mad, but it is probably because they didn't the ACA benefits to stop the increase in the premiums.
 

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I don't know why any of them are mad, but it is probably because they didn't the ACA benefits to stop the increase in the premiums.
the ACA negotiation doesn't happen until december :yeshrug: Dems thought they could shut down the government, to try to demand the level they wanted in advance. they failed
 

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the ACA negotiation doesn't happen until december :yeshrug: Dems thought they could shut down the government, to try to demand the level they wanted in advance. they failed
The new premiums are already known. This shutdown was because Trump was trying to stop the release of the Epstein files. They wouldn't even swear in the new Congresswoman from Arizona to prevent the vote on the files release.
 

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The new premiums are already known
nope. we know what the premiums are, if there's zero subsidy. which is highly unlikely

This shutdown was because Trump was trying to stop the release of the Epstein files. They wouldn't even swear in the new Congresswoman from Arizona to prevent the vote on the files release.
nah, they just used the shutdown as an excuse
 

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nope. we know what the premiums are, if there's zero subsidy. which is highly unlikely


nah, they just used the shutdown as an excuse
Nope. They literally refused to swear in the congresswoman elect from Arizona because she would be the deciding vote on the release of the Epstein files. Look it up.
 
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