Official Fergurson Action Plan Thread

[theworldismine13]

although economics comes before politics, i think the immediate action plan is to get recall election going and getting people registered to vote

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/9715538/

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/...-to-recall-fergusons-mayor-if-he-doesnt-quit/

 

[Fat Kevin]

so this was just yesterday???? .....

YT comment.....



Is this for all American departments??

yes
I'm not saying he should have shot him because the suspect was far away and didn't have a gun, they could have easily tasered him. But if it comes to where a cop needs to fire his weapon, he's going to aim for center mass, because the logic is that the gun is a final resort for quick incapacitation. However, that doesn't mean that they're supposed to keep shooting the suspect once their on the ground and no longer a threat.

 

[newworldafro]

yes
I'm not saying he should have shot him because the suspect was far away and didn't have a gun, they could have easily tasered him. But if it comes to where a cop needs to fire his weapon, he's going to aim for center mass, because the logic is that the gun is a final resort for quick incapacitation. However, that doesn't mean that they're supposed to keep shooting the suspect once their on the ground and no longer a threat.

yeah....its crazy....no type of discretion on the situation or the use of force ..... . They shot him two times and he was already on the ground.....then they handcuffed a dead man ..What section of the handbook is that in???. ... is there some Blade/Zombie shiit going on out there we don't know about ??

 

[Fat Kevin]

yeah....its crazy....no type of discretion on the situation ......

yeah if he pointed a gun at them it would be different, they can't risk getting shot at. But a dude with a knife 8 feet away? It shows that they actually wanted to kill him, and they'll get away with it just because he was armed (and black).

 

[Brown_Pride]

He was mentally ill

getting stabbed by a mental ill person doesn't hurt or kill you any less.
While it sucks wtf was the cop supposed to do? Try and taze him? And if he missed? Take a knife to the head? Sad situation but this video is not and should not be placed on the same level as the Brown shooting. Do that and one is tainted with the other. Right now "we" have the benefit of having a lot of support from all races and walks of life, equate a cop shooting a man clearly walking towards them with a knife to a cop shooting a boy with his hands possibly walking away from him and you fuk your own cause.

All that being said..
11-12% voter turn out.
50/53 cops are white
Mayor - White
city council - white
basically the political landscape in that area - white
the demographic landscape in that area - black

Vote and push people to vote.
Supporting black business is also great, but truly if you want to change the game then you can't just play within its rules you need to place yourself in a position to change the rules. that's what "they" do. We should too.

VOTE.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I thought the same, but they said he was 3 ft. away coming at them with it above his head. I just feel like they could have had a clear shot at his legs. @the cac mamba the police said dude was running at them from 3 ft. away. He was on a freaking platform, they could've given him a flesh wound.

Could have. But as black people we need to know not to give them an excuse. I expect police to shoot me if I'm holding a knife because all they need is an excuse. He let them have that excuse

 

[old_timer]

so this was just yesterday???? .....

YT comment.....



Is this for all American departments??

i am not an expert on police matters
from a discussion i had with some people this morning
(i consider these men reliable and trustworthy)

LAPD teaches its officers
1. 10'
2. 3 seconds
3. immediate defense of life

do not let anyone gets within a 10 foot bubble
the subject has a 3 second headstart on an officer
any ambiguous movement is going to draw fire
use lethal force - chest shots
it is considered immediate defense of life
the officer doesn't have to spend time identifying themselves
saying "freeze" etc. any of that
3 seconds and 10 feet

i was curious
it seems a book called "Patrol Response to Contemporary Problems"
by Kolman (i skimmed some pages)
discusses some of these same ideas

i am sorry that man is dead
re: mental health, he did not get the help he seemed to need
very bad situation

also ,even if something is "standard procedure"
it should be reviewed periodically to see if it is giving good outcomes