OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

[CHICAGO]

Sansa has turned on every single family member, its laughable that Arya would hold her in any type of high esteem on the basis of family values. Thats just bad writing on the show’s part and should have never been included.

THATS ALL IT IS...

BAD WRITING...

WHICH THIS SHOW HAS HAD FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF SEASONS.





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[ReasonableMatic]

When Sansa and Jon reunited at Castle Black she asked him where he was going. He said South to be warm and he was going to take her with him. She pleaded with him to go try to defeat Ramsay in order to get Rickon back. She didn’t make it about Winterfell she made it about family and Rickon. The Battle Of The b*stards from Jon’s perspective was to save Rickon. Sansa knew from the very beginning that Rickon was a goner but didn’t tell Jon that until the NIGHT BEFORE THE BATTLE. She put Jon’s life in danger on the foundation of a lie. Because she wanted revenge but was too weak of mind and body to get it herself. So she used Jon as her rook and Rickon as her pawn

Sansa has turned on every single family member, its laughable that Arya would hold her in any type of high esteem on the basis of family values. Thats just bad writing on the show’s part and should have never been included.

FACTS!!!
Anyone condoning Sansa’s professional victimhood and dishonorable moves needs to seek some COTDAMN help

“TAWK TO THESE nikkaS”

 

[Never Broke Again]

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[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Ehhhhh were NOT the Tarly’s already traitors for turning on the Tyrel’s and helping Jamie defeat Olenna? Whats one more betrayal if it means not being roasted alive? They were ALREADY oathbreakers which menas they didn’t ultimately give a fukk about “honor”. You see those OTHER soldiers saw reason and bent with the quickness.

Dany’s proposition wasn’t dumb at all. She offered them mercy and they declined. They died for what amounted to false pride. They were ALREADY traitors.


If i’m at war with someone and they kick my ass. And ultimately tell me “hey bro. I know its war and you had to choose a side, so you have a choice. You can swear fealty to me and all will be forgiven, or you can refuse and ima fukk you in the ass” what you think i’m choosing? I’m swearing fukking fealty because the opposite choice in the name of false pride is a TERRIBLE damn choice! The Tarly’s, like two buffoons, chose to get roasted. fukk them

Yes, they were traitors. fukk the Tarly's. I don't give a shyt about them. That doesn't make Dany's proposition any less asinine. When else in the show or in life has the loss of a single non-war ending battle meant the enemy survivors had to become traitors or be tortured?

Like I said, in every other instance they're held as prisoners of war.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

When Sansa and Jon reunited at Castle Black she asked him where he was going. He said South to be warm and he was going to take her with him. She pleaded with him to go try to defeat Ramsay in order to get Rickon back. She didn’t make it about Winterfell she made it about family and Rickon. The Battle Of The b*stards from Jon’s perspective was to save Rickon. Sansa knew from the very beginning that Rickon was a goner but didn’t tell Jon that until the NIGHT BEFORE THE BATTLE. She put Jon’s life in danger on the foundation of a lie. Because she wanted revenge but was too weak of mind and body to get it herself. So she used Jon as her rook and Rickon as her pawn

Sansa has turned on every single family member, its laughable that Arya would hold her in any type of high esteem on the basis of family values. Thats just bad writing on the show’s part and should have never been included.

You continually make up lies and slant the truth in order to pile on Sansa slander. Sansa pleaded with Jon to take back Winterfell cuz it was their home (she specifically states it's their home "and Bran's and Arya's and Rickon's, wherever they are" which speaks to her sense of family values that Arya acknowledged last episode, that you're chalking up to bad writing....it's only bad writing for Arya to say that cuz you actively ignore Sansa's character development). She pleads with Jon that the North would not be safe as long as Ramsay Bolton held Winterfell. Sansa does all this pleading BEFORE they learn Ramsay has Rickon. As usual, Jon ignores all her. Then they get the letter from Ramsay saying he had Rickon, and Sansa appeals to that finally convince him to fight. The fact of the matter is that Sansa was right from the beginning: Ramsay did need to be taken out. Jon needed convincing, so she convinced him. It's funny watching y'all hold this against her whilst justifying Jon's lies about why he bent the knee. Sansa even corrected her lie before the battle in hopes that Jon would not let his false hope in saving Rickon lead him into Ramsay's trap....of course Jon ignored her again.

Sansa has NOT gone against every member of family. She went against Arya and got Lady killed because of it, but that's it. She never went against Ned (please do cite the scene where she does). She never went against Robb/Cat. She wrote that letter as the Lannister's captive. Robb knew immediately it was Cersei's words, as did Cat who read the letter at a separate time. Furthermore, Cersei meant that letter to be a threat letting Robb/Cat know that she held her kid. Propping that letter up as going against the family is a complete misrepresentation of the facts.

Sansa has been on a character growth path since Ned was beheaded. She didn't immediately smarter, more loyal to her family, it's been several seasons in the making. Jon has remarked how much smarter Sansa has gotten. Tyrion remarked how much smarter she's gotten. Littlefinger acknowledged how much smarter she's gotten. The only reason you think Arya's comment last Sunday was "bad writing" is cuz you continually ignore all of her growth moments and view everything she does with slanted eyes.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

You continually make up lies and slant the truth in order to pile on Sansa slander. Sansa pleaded with Jon to take back Winterfell cuz it was their home (she specifically states it's their home "and Bran's and Arya's and Rickon's, wherever they are" which speaks to her sense of family values that Arya acknowledged last episode, that you're chalking up to bad writing....it's only bad writing for Arya to say that cuz you actively ignore Sansa's character development). She pleads with Jon that the North would not be safe as long as Ramsay Bolton held Winterfell. Sansa does all this pleading BEFORE they learn Ramsay has Rickon. As usual, Jon ignores all her. Then they get the letter from Ramsay saying he had Rickon, and Sansa appeals to that finally convince him to fight. The fact of the matter is that Sansa was right from the beginning: Ramsay did need to be taken out. Jon needed convincing, so she convinced him. It's funny watching y'all hold this against her whilst justifying Jon's lies about why he bent the knee. Sansa even corrected her lie before the battle in hopes that Jon would not let his false hope in saving Rickon lead him into Ramsay's trap....of course Jon ignored her again.

Sansa has NOT gone against every member of family. She went against Arya and got Lady killed because of it, but that's it. She never went against Ned (please do cite the scene where she does). She never went against Robb/Cat. She wrote that letter as the Lannister's captive. Robb knew immediately it was Cersei's words, as did Cat who read the letter at a separate time. Furthermore, Cersei meant that letter to be a threat letting Robb/Cat know that she held her kid. Propping that letter up as going against the family is a complete misrepresentation of the facts.

Sansa has been on a character growth path since Ned was beheaded. She didn't immediately smarter, more loyal to her family, it's been several seasons in the making. Jon has remarked how much smarter Sansa has gotten. Tyrion remarked how much smarter she's gotten. Littlefinger acknowledged how much smarter she's gotten. The only reason you think Arya's comment last Sunday was "bad writing" is cuz you continually ignore all of her growth moments and view everything she does with slanted eyes.

Sansa is trash and been trash the whole show. She just not close to being smart like that

 

[Jhoon]

THATS ALL IT IS...

BAD WRITING...

WHICH THIS SHOW HAS HAD FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF SEASONS.





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The show ran out of material.

 

[Robbie3000]

yeah, hes a Targ. he was the Hand of the King for two Kings, then Lord Commander of the Nights Watch .. always heavy into magic/warging .. dude has a wild history

it gives me a new perspective on things too - I now believe he planted the 'burm them all' into the Mad King ala Bran planting 'hold the door' into Hodor ... which changes my thoughts on how things will now play out

if you look back at Danys visions at the House of the Undying, the Red Keep is covered in snow and nearly demolished

Im expecting the NK to make a swerve and attack KL, and then he gets a million new wights? Goddamn

Im thinking the visions 3ER planted in the Mad King forced him to create all the wild fire in KL too, to combat whats coming

We'll see.

That’s very interesting. I’ve been wondering why the Battle for Winterfell happens so early in the season. It seems like that should be the final battle.

Catch Cersei slipping with a much smaller army and a bunch of useless ships. Her miscalculation and poor decision making has left her isolated and in dire straits before. Triple OG Tywin and Big mama Olen did tell her she’s not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.

She was warned last season, that turning to whights is the fate of ever person in the kingdom if they don’t band together.

If this happens, which seems likely the more I think about it, maybe she is forced to use the wildfire nuclear option during the invasion. The destruction of KL by wildfire has been foreshadowed since the first season.



How long does it take to march down to KL though?

 

[Robbie3000]

Speaking of wildfire, why didn’t Tyrion think about securing wildfire or technology for the making wildfire?

 

[Jhoon]

That’s very interesting. I’ve been wondering why the Battle for Winterfell happens so early in the season. It seems like that should be the final battle.

Catch Cersei slipping with a much smaller army and a bunch of useless ships. Her miscalculation and poor decision making has left her isolated and in dire straits before. Triple OG Tywin and Big mama Olen did tell her she’s not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.

She was warned last season, that turning to whights is the fate of ever person in the kingdom if they don’t band together.

If this happens, which seems likely the more I think about it, maybe she is forced to use the wildfire nuclear option during the invasion. The destruction of KL by wildfire has been foreshadowed since the first season.



How long does it take to march down to KL though?

I think the Night King has a little pep in his step. How awesome would it be if he pulled a Robb Stark and sent his army to Kings Landing?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

How long does it take to march down to KL though?

Judging by how fast Dany got a whole dathraki army across westeros to fight the Lannisters last season I'd say 10 minutes...

 

[Brozay]

That’s very interesting. I’ve been wondering why the Battle for Winterfell happens so early in the season. It seems like that should be the final battle.

Catch Cersei slipping with a much smaller army and a bunch of useless ships. Her miscalculation and poor decision making has left her isolated and in dire straits before. Triple OG Tywin and Big mama Olen did tell her she’s not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.

She was warned last season, that turning to whights is the fate of ever person in the kingdom if they don’t band together.

If this happens, which seems likely the more I think about it, maybe she is forced to use the wildfire nuclear option during the invasion. The destruction of KL by wildfire has been foreshadowed since the first season.



How long does it take to march down to KL though?

I envisoned that he would take a couple white walkers and fly Viserion to KL, so it shouldnt be an overly long trip

 

[Brozay]

just talking to folks at work and shyt about Thrones, people arent seeing whats coming

if there is one thing I know about Thrones, its that absolute fukkery is coming

you have to think outside the box to piece together whats happening

the characters im most interested in right now are: Jon, Jamie, Arya & Bran

i feel like they will be most critical to the plot ending, maybe not Arya as much, but you just KNOW shes gonna pull some shyt that will make us go

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

just talking to folks at work and shyt about Thrones, people arent seeing whats coming

if there is one thing I know about Thrones, its that absolute fukkery is coming

you have to think outside the box to piece together whats happening

the characters im most interested in right now are: Jon, Jamie, Arya & Bran

i feel like they will be most critical to the plot ending, maybe not Arya as much, but you just KNOW shes gonna pull some shyt that will make us go

Yall better be right cuz we've been waiting 8 seasons for her to do that...

Yall book nikkas been hyping her up incessantly and all she done so far is merk that geriatric fakkit that killed her mother and brother...

Her shyt in Braavos dragged badly, worst part of that season, borderline unwatchable...

 

[Brozay]

Yall better be right cuz we've been waiting 8 seasons for her to do that...

Yall book nikkas been hyping her up incessantly and all she done so far is merk that geriatric fakkit that killed her mother and brother...

Her shyt in Braavos dragged badly, worst part of that season, borderline unwatchable...

well she also killed all of Walder Freys sons. she also kills Littlefinger, which is pretty significant Id say...

she also killed the Waif & Meryn Trant

I would suspect Bran giving Arya the dragonglass dagger will prove to be significant too