Official Hip Hop Grammy's 2016 Thread

[Omerta]

Not the biggest Kendrick fan, loved GKMC and Section 80, the rest I would give a 7/10.

However, we all know the Grammy's are shyt. However, it's so clear we all want him to do well here, with the exception of Drake fans.

Absolute fukking lames.

 

[Ziggiy]

Slant has K.Dot for RAOTY And AOTY

• kay, let me explain. People expect the GRAMMYs to make the wrong choice. Many connoisseurs believe Kendrick is owed a big prize after losing last year to Macklemore. For "true" hip hop fans, Macklegate was a slap in the face. Picking The Heist over good kid, m.A.A.d city was just another nail in the GRAMMYs' coffin of irrelevancy. Since Kendrick was robbed last year, the narrative that feels most just includes an embrace of Kendrick for an album that could not be more timely or ambitious. In a year where race dominated the national conversation, K.Dot made the album about race in the modern era. It deserves to win as a redress for prior injustices, and it deserves to win because it deftly explored huge themes that resonate with millions of people in 2015. It's no doubt a masterpiece, and the GRAMMYs would become slightly cooler for anointing it thus. For that exact reason, I think Kendrick pulls an "upset" and takes home the night's top prize.
  
  Slant

 

[Ziggiy]

Rolling Stone predicts Kendrick as the favorite for AOTY

Kendrick Lamar, To Pimp a Butterfly"This is the category where critical acclaim counts," says Isquith, "and this is the most critically acclaimed album."
VEGAS ODDS: 7-1

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[ciubaca]

i just had to look what truffle butter means

 

[Ziggiy]

Consequence of Sound has a break down of every major category. Their thoughts on AOTY


should win: Kendrick Lamar – To Pimp a Butterfly
Who will win: Kendrick Lamar – To Pimp a Butterfly

One of the best things that the Album of the Year category has going for it is that each of the five nominees has a legitimate claim to the award. Alabama Shakes have already proven to be a Grammy favorite on their previous album cycle (see their Boys & Girlsnominations, and take into account that Sound & Color is even better), while Chris Stapleton is a rare country singer to find favor beyond his genre’s confines (see him play this year at Coachella of all places). And while The Weeknd’s stock has never been higher, proving a singles machine that has found a nice balance between commercial and critical acclaim, this year will likely come down to two wildly different horses. Any other year would find Taylor Swift with this award on lockdown; her 1989 is a cultural pillar that doesn’t get enough credit for how brave it was. But it seems foolish to pick against Kendrick Lamar this year. The Compton rapper created the critical consensus best album of the year, and the Grammy voters might feel like they owe him for previous snubs. –Philip Cosores


Grammys 2016: Who Should Win, Who Will Win

 

[Ziggiy]

National Suntimes weighs in on AOTY


To Pimp a Butterfly” is the best album of the year. Musically, it’s ambitious and well-executed and explores hip-hop in a way that hasn’t been seen before.

Unfortunately, the powers that be will most likely pass on the rapper that actually made “Bad Blood” tolerable and officially crown Swift queen to the rejoicing of the masses.

Who should win and who will actually win at the 2016 Grammys

 

[Ark]

I think Deeply rooted should win the Rap album of the year , it really deserved it IMO

 

[Ziggiy]

Manhattan Digest has Taylor Swift beating out K.Dot for AOTY


The way too obvious choice here is Taylor Swift. She was also the way too obvious choice three years ago for “Red” and Daft Punk came out from under her to win, so I don’t think she has this on lock. Alabama Shakes might sound surprising to some, but when you think of the recent list of winners for this category (Beck, Mumford & Sons, Arcade Fire) you really aren’t that far off from them really having a great shot at winning. Plus the album is stellar, so I can’t knock that. In the history of The Grammy’s, only two hip-hop albums have ever won this award. Lauryn Hill did it in 1999 with “The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill” and then Outkast did it six years later with “Speakerboxxx/The Love Below”. This award REALLY REALLY should go to Kendrick as “Pimp” was the best album of 2015. I just hope the voters can really pull it together and give it to him, but history tends to repeat itself at these things so my money is somewhat on Alabama Shakes.


Grammy Nominations 2016- Who Will Win & Who Should Win?

 

[Ziggiy]

I think Deeply rooted should win the Rap album of the year , it really deserved it IMO

Deeply Rooted was fantastic. Should've been nominated over Nicki's trash

 

[No1]

You mean since like the beginning of time? Sheeran, Swift, MJ, Sam Smith, Gaga, Bruno Mars, Adele, Rihanna, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, George Michael...list goes on.

Swift at least co-writes the majority if not all of her music and can play instruments. That's partially why people respect her, begrudgingly. It's unequal comparing her publicity and acclaim to Britney's because Swift was and is a much more advanced songwriter, and the media landscape is incredibly different.

All of the AOTY noms (except probably The Weeknd) have a good argument for winning. I'd put my money on Stapleton, even tho Kendrick's lil rat face has been campaigning harder than Bernie Sanders for Grammys of all things. He has a few things going for him, chiefly him losing last time and the musical diversity of his album.

None of the AOTY noms have a good case for winning because no one knows what the Grammys are rating. I can't have a good case for NBA MVP if no one knows what the MVP means. But with that said, as someone who watches critical reviews, Swift is an amazing story to me.

MJ was critically acclaimed so no one batted an eye when he one. No one is talking about pop stars winning, but she is genuinely acclaimed by pop critics and then you hear bad blood and go what the fukk? There was a time when the Grammys literally thought about overhauling the voting because Lionel Richie beat Prince and Bruce Springsteen. Critics hate Perry, Rihanna, etc. But 1989 which is basically a Katy Perry album is AOTY material? Her "advanced" songwriting is a talking point created by her PR because she was young and writing parts of her songs. But the songs themselves are generic. Do you want me to post song lyrics from the Grammy winning album of the year of 19/20 year old Taylor Swift?

TAYLOR SWIFT – FEARLESS (2010)
The Grammys sometimes go for the bland, but it’s usually older people with at least some presence, not a country/pop lab creation singing lines like, “You'll be the prince and I'll be the princess/It's a love story, baby, just say yes.”

This gets you compared to Prince and Joni Mitchell? Come on dawg. These are Disney Channel Original Movie caliber records. The one thing you're right about is the media landscape is different. The hating old rock nikkas have been replaced by people who feel like they have to rate popular shyt highly. Everyone I know in the music industry "begrudgingly" gives her props like you said, but it's more respect for her PR game than music.

 

[Ziggiy]

None of the AOTY noms have a good case for winning because no one knows what the Grammys are rating. I can't have a good case for NBA MVP if no one knows what the MVP means. But with that said, as someone who watches critical reviews, Swift is an amazing story to me.

MJ was critically acclaimed so no one batted an eye when he one. No one is talking about pop stars winning, but she is genuinely acclaimed by pop critics and then you hear bad blood and go what the fukk? There was a time when the Grammys literally thought about overhauling the voting because Lionel Richie beat Prince and Bruce Springsteen. Critics hate Perry, Rihanna, etc. But 1989 which is basically a Katy Perry album is AOTY material? Her "advanced" songwriting is a talking point created by her PR because she was young and writing parts of her songs. But the songs themselves are generic. Do you want me to post song lyrics from the Grammy winning album of the year of 19/20 year old Taylor Swift?



This gets you compared to Prince and Joni Mitchell? Come on dawg. These are Disney Channel Original Movie caliber records. The one thing you're right about is the media landscape is different. The hating old rock nikkas have been replaced by people who feel like they have to rate popular shyt highly. Everyone I know in the music industry "begrudgingly" gives her props like you said, but it's more respect for her PR game than music.

Yo real talk I LOVE having this conversation with you every year...

and the bolded is 100% truth

 

[Ziggiy]

@Abogado let me ask you.

If the nominations for Rap Album Of The Year, Best Rap Performance, Album Of The Year, and Record Of The Year were completely up to YOU which albums/songs would be on your ballot and which albums/songs would be your picks to win?

 

[No1]

@Abogado let me ask you.

If the nominations for Rap Album Of The Year, Best Rap Performance, Album Of The Year, and Record Of The Year were completely up to YOU which albums/songs would be on your ballot and which albums/songs would be your picks to win?

I think K. Dot gets the nod for Rap Album just from the creativity standpoint alone. It was damn near a Jazz/Funk/Spoken Word album plus it had a theme.

Album of the Year is tough. I always try to be objective with that because of different tastes--> I look at (a) critical acclaim first and foremost, (b) commercial success and (c) (if it comes down to it), culture impact. Swift and the Weeknd are automatically crossed off as the two least critically acclaimed of the bunch (both under 80 on metacritic). I have no idea who has more commercial success between K. Dot, AS and Singleton. I'd vote for whoever out of those three had the most and if it's comparable then K. Dot for cultural impact.

I would give "Uptown Funk" Record of the Year. It appealed to everyone. Blank Space literally has the same beat as Leona Lewis' Bleeding Love. D'Angelo's record is way too under the radar and Thinking Out Loud is dope but Uptown Funk was bigger than that and Can't Feel My Face. They're all similar quality wise so I go with the biggest one.

Rap performance, I'd vote Cole just because I think he deserves to win one at this point and I don't think Alright is that much better than Apparently. K. Dot got this last year for "i." I'd say it's Cole's turn. He's the only one out of (Drake, K. Dot and himself) that has not won a Grammy.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Deeply Rooted was fantastic. Should've been nominated over Nicki's trash

You didn't even listen to nickis album

 

[Ziggiy]

I think K. Dot gets the nod for Rap Album just from the creativity standpoint alone. It was damn near a Jazz/Funk/Spoken Word album plus it had a theme.

Album of the Year is tough. I always try to be objective with that because of different tastes--> I look at (a) critical acclaim first and foremost, (b) commercial success and (c) (if it comes down to it), culture impact. Swift and the Weeknd are automatically crossed off as the two least critically acclaimed of the bunch (both under 80 on metacritic). I have no idea who has more commercial success between K. Dot, AS and Singleton. I'd vote for whoever out of those three had the most and if it's comparable then K. Dot for cultural impact.

I would give "Uptown Funk" Record of the Year. It appealed to everyone. Blank Space literally has the same beat as Leona Lewis' Bleeding Love. D'Angelo's record is way too under the radar and Thinking Out Loud is dope but Uptown Funk was bigger than that and Can't Feel My Face. They're all similar quality wise so I go with the biggest one.

Rap performance, I'd vote Cole just because I think he deserves to win one at this point and I don't think Alright is that much better than Apparently. K. Dot got this last year for "i." I'd say it's Cole's turn. He's the only one out of (Drake, K. Dot and himself) that has not won a Grammy.

Interesting.

I feel you on J.Cole in the fact that, I REALLY want him to win a Grammy because of how successful Forest Hills Drive was and how true to himself as an artist he's been since Sideline Story there aren't too many MC's out there who can have both commercial and critical success and not have to whore themselves out. My only issue is that I really don't think Apparently is better than Alright. I really wish he would've gotten a Nom for something like G.O.M.D (which had a fantastic Video) or Fire Squad. Alright is one of the crown jewels of K.Dot's album and I think that if I pick it for Record Of a the Year it would be disingenuous to not also have it be the Best Rap Performance.


I'm also torn between Glory and These Walls for Best Rap/Sung. These Walls is my second favorite song off TPAB, that shyt JAMS and I could literally listen to it 100 times. But Glory is more than likely the better/more important and socially aware song. It's a big accomplish for a Hip Hop song of SUBSTANCE to win a Golden Globe/Oscar/Grammy and Common is a GOAT candidate MC who truly deserves to be honored within the pantheons of Hip Hop history. I'm always writing and speaking about how Hip Hop deserves to be respected as an art form and a genre, and a win for Glory in this category would take steps to promote that within the larger mainstream culture. In my opinion it should have been nominated for Record Of the Year over the Weeknd