Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

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They both got steamrolled militarily. Name a single battle the Iraqis and Taliban won?

:mjlol: That doesn't matter at all.... we went to Afghanistan for over a decade. Thousand of soldiers died over there. And guess who is in power now? The Taliban again....
 

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The battle has just begun Mr. Trump, Iran's state TV presenter says​


"The battle has just begun, Mr. Trump! Now you talk of peace? We will deal with you in a way that makes you understand the consequences of recklessness," an Iranian presenter said in a state TV program in reaction to a post by Donald Trump that called for peace with Iran.
 

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Russia and Iran made their moves on Biden and Kamala’s watch.

People can dislike Trump all they want, and there is plenty to disagree with him on. However, the left are the party that said Russia and China were not threats to anyone. The same party that took it easy on Iran as well.
Biden warned Russia to leave Ukraine alone and gave them every possible out before helping give them the quagmire they are in now
 

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:mjlol: That doesn't matter at all.... we went to Afghanistan for over a decade. Thousand of soldiers died over there. And guess who is in power now? The Taliban again....
You’re moving the goalposts. You said lost. Waiting til the US leaves and steamrolling the National Army in place is not a military defeat. It’s a strategic loss but not a military loss and those troops loss were over the course of almost two decades still wasn’t over over 8k. Most of the losses were during COIN operations when we were “nation building”
 
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You’re moving the goalposts. You said lost. Waiting til the US leaves and steamrolling the National Army in place is not a military defeat. It’s a strategic loss but not a military loss and those troops loss were over the course of almost two decades still wasn’t over over 8k. Most of the losses were during COIN operations when we were “nation building”

We did lose. Our objective was regime change and it failed.
 
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China and Russia are horrible friends
They are just doing what America does under Trump: Abandon their allies. So many similarities.

It’s a real simple strategy:

Step 1: fukk shyt up domestically
Step 2: fukk shyt up regionally
Step 3: End up in a bad spot economically
Step 4: Extract resources from your allies
Step 5: When they need help, hang them out to dry because you don’t want to/can’t leverage your power due to the previous situations
 
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