Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US, Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

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6m ago
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Thousands gather in Iraqi capital to show solidarity with Iran​


Inspired by a recent call from the highest religious authority in the country, the march called on the Iraqi government to prevent Israel and its allies from using Iraqi airspace and soil to attack Iraq’s neighbours.
This comes amid escalating regional tensions and recent U.S threats against Iran’s leadership.
“We support the stance of our grand leader. We totally reject arrogance and aggression. We will win by God’s willing, not only in Iran but in Palestine, Gaza, Lebanon and Syria”, one protester told Al Jazeera.
“We call on other Arab and Muslim states to reject the aggression on the Islamic Republic of Iran. Where are they [during] this campaign against a Muslim nation? The Iranians are our neighbours and we stand by them”, said Haytham Al-Juburi, a Baghdad resident, whom we also spoke to.
 

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21m ago
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Explainer

What are B-2 stealth bombers, bunker buster bombs?​


  • Bunker buster” is a general term for bombs designed to destroy targets located deep underground that conventional bombs cannot reach.
  • The US military’s most powerful bunker buster is the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator. Weighing about 30,000 pounds (13,600 kg), including a 2,700kg (6,000-pound) warhead, this precision-guided bomb is made of high-strength steel and built to penetrate up to 200 feet (61 metres) underground before exploding.
  • The B-2 Spirit, a US stealth bomber, is currently the only aircraft designed to deploy the GBU-57 and can carry two bunker buster bombs at a time.
  • The US Air Force states that multiple bombs can be dropped sequentially, either by the same aircraft or by several, allowing each strike to burrow deeper and amplify the overall impact.
  • Israel also operates US-made bunker busters, including the GBU-28 and BLU-109, which are typically dropped from fighter jets such as the F-15. These weapons, however, have a much shallower penetration range and are not capable of reaching extreme depths of fortified sites like Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility.
INTERACTIVE poster GBU 57 bunker buster-1750312444
[Al Jazeera]
 

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1m ago
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Trump has a relatively free hand to order strikes without congressional approval​

Reporting from Washington DC, US
As president of the United States, Donald Trump has fairly broad authority to order military strikes if he believes that the US is being attacked, or is about to be attacked.

If conflict became sustained and substantial, then he would have to go to Congress and ask for their support in the form of an official war declaration.

But no one suggests you would need to go to Congress every time you order any sort of military strikes. Certainly, we’ve seen that kind of action carried out in the past by presidents from both parties.

What may be interesting is the question of international law on whether or not the US can carry out such attacks.

An imminent attack towards the US would give them cover under international law.

But as we heard from Tulsi Gabbard, the US director of national intelligence in March, it was the assessment of the US intelligence community that Iran was not building a bomb and the supreme leader had not decided to restart the nuclear weapons programme he had suspended years earlier.

That, of course, is an assessment that Donald Trump has just said in the past 24 hours is wrong.
 

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Yea, I'm thinking tonight.



24s ago
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Developing

Trump due to arrive at White House shortly​


The US president is en route to Washington after departing New Jersey, cutting a golf trip short.

Trump is set to arrive at 2100GMT, in about 25 minutes, to hold a meeting with his National Security Council to consider his options regarding striking Iran.

Stay here for updates.
 
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People really need to stop posting and talking up Tucker Carlson like he's some voice of reason. He's not. Just like MTG.

Tucker is a true conseRvative. not a maga republican. Two different type of republicans. Those type of republicans dont like maga republicans. He still aint shyt tho :heh:
Tucker is the prototype of a MAGA Republican. He's fully aligned with their white nationalist agenda. The only reason he breaks from the rest is because he understands that endless foreign wars undermine the ability to advance fascist goals at home. It's not anti-war on principle; it's a cynical strategy.
 

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During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn't be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, said the sources.”

So he was for the Regime change, the classic assassination way, not the Iraq war way. Interesting.
 

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34s ago
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Protesters In Israeli worry Iran conflict hinders return of captives in Gaza​


Israeli protesters demanding that Netanyahu’s government end the war in Gaza and strike a deal to return captives held by Hamas say they fear the conflict with Iran is hindering their cause.
Al Jazeera’s Bernard Smith, reporting from Amman, Jordan because al Jazeera has been banned in Israel and the occupied West Bank, says that the small groups of protesters that had returned to Israeli streets were asking: “Why Iran? What about the captives?”
Supporters and relatives of the captives rallied outside the headquarters of Netanyahu’s Likud party in Tel Aviv, carrying placards saying “Stop the war” and large pictures of those held by Hamas since an attack on October 7, 2023.
One protester, 61-year-old Tsipi Haitovsky, told Reuters that she did not know or care why Netanyahu had started a conflict with Iran.
“I care about one issue, and that’s the issue of the hostages,” she said.
“As far as I’m concerned, this issue is now neglected because the government of Israel and the entire world is now looking at what’s going on between Israel and Iran, and people have forgotten about the hostages.”
Relatives and supporters of hostages held in Gaza since the October 7, 2023 attack on Israel by Hamas protest for the release of all hostages outside the headquarters of the Likud Party, in Tel Aviv, Israel, June 21, 2025.
Protesters in Tel Aviv call for the release of hostages held in Gaza. [Violeta Santos Moura/Reuters]
 

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“ During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn't be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, said the sources.”

Vance is actually right. But as I've sais, one thing we can count on is trump will make the WRONG decision.
Iran doesn't want to do anything against USA per se, but they're not going to let it slide if we attack them.

They have stuff hidden and really are like, "i wish you would".
 
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